EnigmaGrey Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 For example . . . ShuiYin, Geras and Kuren 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertJohnson Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 As EG said, I'm more focusing on furnitures/existing items (even tho new items are in too), but I know you people want tons of new weapons, but without new anims it's kinda pointless tbh. So it'll sure come in further update, but let's focus on items for now If you have suggestions about furniture/usefull items go for it tho, I may also add blacksmithing to repair damaged metal weapons, making it really usefull! Kuren and NagashUD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydromancerx Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 On 3/17/2016 at 2:11 PM, RobertJohnson said: They're not out of place, they're the final item made by Mash And no, no katana/swords, it's not from Hydrocraft (I didn't even knew Hydrocraft had forge tbh :D), it's entirely new and it's kickass The point of this is not to bring huge weapons but furnitures, and usable items (nails, scissors, shovel, etc...), point of the game was never to kill thousands of zombies with swords More metal furniture is coming, I'm thinking about them atm! Really you had no idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorak Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 2 hours ago, RobertJohnson said: As EG said, I'm more focusing on furnitures/existing items (even tho new items are in too), but I know you people want tons of new weapons, but without new anims it's kinda pointless tbh. So it'll sure come in further update, but let's focus on items for now If you have suggestions about furniture/usefull items go for it tho, I may also add blacksmithing to repair damaged metal weapons, making it really usefull! Will these gates be single tile or bigger to fit cars ? Can we craft shields (yes shield). Using metal plates to reinforce leather jacket ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertJohnson Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 No armor yet, need animation for those, so no shields too (i said furniture/items, not weapons :D) Gates will be single tiled, they're the one already existing Zorak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorak Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 Ok good to hear coz it sound more like not yet than no Are bigger gates planned ? All these well walled bases in MP looks funny with just a simple door as enterance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 54 minutes ago, RobertJohnson said: No armor yet, need animation for those, so no shields too (i said furniture/items, not weapons :D) Gates will be single tiled, they're the one already existing Much, much stronger, lockable crate is the big one . . . Much stronger lockable doors, as well. (They have no purpose now being so weak.) Kuren, Zorak and Trojan_Turps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorak Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 22 minutes ago, EnigmaGrey said: Much, much stronger, lockable crate is the big one . . . Much stronger lockable doors, as well. (They have no purpose now being so weak.) This ! Metal crate + padlock = safe items. That would make padlocks useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyel Logen Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 How about some metal gas cans,... they can hold some more and can be smelt. A craftable lamp for a candle to place or move around,... There could be some items just for smelting them like,... ...some other tools like a wrench (in a later update it could used as weapon) or a spanner (later for repairing cars/parts) or pleirs. Toolsboxes Empty cans (found in trash cans or after make one empty ^^ ) Empty oil cans In metal stones (Is this right? "Stone with metal in it" I mean,.. "metal stones" that sounds not right, or does it(!?) Whats the word for those? If I google for it I just get to some Metalbands. How about "a stone that containing iron" mh,... maybe i should just go for "iron stone") iron stones found with a higher lvl of foraging. Metal tubs Metal buckets (same use as the plastik one) Candelholder (maybe place able) Chains A safe (this could be also craft able : 3 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpdlr Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 17/03/2016 at 11:20 PM, ld-airgrafix said: Im all for new items and extra content, but remember, this is a survival game, not a crafting game. survival should not be easy. I hope metal working is a high level skill, and not something it can be done on day 1. Personally, I like the way you can turn down the zombies and get more out of crafting and settling down, but I like the hardcore survival aspect as well. Is there not room for both? Professions add exciting opportunities for both type of player. ld-airgrafix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenoglyph Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) On 3/17/2016 at 3:05 PM, Joshnpk said: Metal working? This isn't Minecraft it's Zomboid. An average Joe (which is who you are in Zomboid) couldn't set up a working forge in the middle of the deep south, I hope this is a joke or something cause this is honestly stupid and doesn't fit with Zomboid at all. hell with that, i don't RP an average joe. i RP me vs. my zombie neighbors....and i'm not an idiot, i can set up a forge using millennium+ old technology. besides, if you don't like crafting or decide your character is too stupid to pull it off, nobody is forcing you to do it. Edited March 21, 2016 by xenoglyph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, xenoglyph said: hell with that, i don't RP an average joe. i RP me vs. my zombie neighbors....and i'm not an idiot, i can set up a forge using millennium+ old technology. besides, if you don't like crafting or decide your character is too stupid to pull it off, nobody is forcing you to do it. Average Joe died as a concept with the professions overhaul, anyway. That was kind of the point. Kuren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deprav Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 What about metal bars to reinforce windows, it could be weaker than metal plates but you could still see/shoot/poke what's behind. (comme des "meurtrières" RJ ^^) Also later, armors for tammed dragons. Kuren and EnigmaGrey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Rather than melting metals, how about varying degrees of scrap? Round, straight, and sheet scrap. Build protective covers for windows, doors, and barricades from sheet scrap; nails from round scrap; knives from straight scrap .etc Seems more in-line with reality than smelting and cast/die making, surely? ZombiesLoveBrainiacs, Kuren, deprav and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batsphinx Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 21 minutes ago, EnigmaGrey said: Rather than melting metals, how about varying degrees of scrap? Round, straight, and sheet scrap. Build protective covers for windows, doors, and barricades from sheet scrap; nails from round scrap; knives from straight scrap .etc Seems more in-line with reality than smelting and cast/die making, surely? We've actually been discussing welding etc. only this morning EG. Kuren and ZombiesLoveBrainiacs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deprav Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 21 minutes ago, EnigmaGrey said: Rather than melting metals, how about varying degrees of scrap? Round, straight, and sheet scrap. Build protective covers for windows, doors, and barricades from sheet scrap; nails from round scrap; knives from straight scrap .etc Seems more in-line with reality than smelting and cast/die making, surely? I like that, maybe that could suit low-level metalworking ? The kind of stuff you're limited to when you don't have any forging background/profession but find some DIY recipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Just now, deprav said: I like that, maybe that could suit low-level metalworking ? The kind of stuff you're limited to when you don't have any forging background/profession but find some DIY recipes. Yes -- certainly being able to put a blade on something or drill holes to mount a handle is well within the lowest levels. Using rasps .etc 4 minutes ago, Batsphinx said: We've actually been discussing welding etc. only this morning EG. Great to hear. Kuren and Gaffa Tape Warrior 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batsphinx Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Yeah, unsure exactly how it would work at the mo, as it's clearly RJ's thing, but my comparison was that low-level welding stuff would look a lot more rough and ready. Kinda like how low-level carpentry looks crap, but better carpentry looks more professional. My thought was 'What would my Dad do during a zombie apocalypse?' and the answer was to weld the shit out of everything he could put his hands on BUT lots of noise, lots of light... Kuren and deprav 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Just now, Batsphinx said: Yeah, unsure exactly how it would work at the mo, as it's clearly RJ's thing, but my comparison was that low-level welding stuff would look a lot more rough and ready. Kinda like how low-level carpentry looks crap, but better carpentry looks more professional. My thought was 'What would my Dad do during a zombie apocalypse?' and the answer was to weld the shit out of everything he could put his hands on BUT lots of noise, lots of light... Spot welding and cutting with a AO torch really would be rather fun in-game. Impromtu weapon, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomiboi Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 A 24V truck battery (or 2 car batteries together), cables and a welding rod could be used for welding as well (maybe just for pros?). At least when cars are introduced. Would really bring some survival aspect into this. Z3759xy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutz Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 +1 for metal bars over windows we can see out, great idea! or even craftable hatches created with hinges that we can open to shoot out? Batsphinx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydromancerx Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Having one Forge Item is going to totally mess up Hydrocraft's tiered system. Please make different levels of items. As it looks now your new Forge has Bricks, Iron Ingots and Steel Ingots all from one item. But in Hydrocraft we separate them out ... Kiln = Bricks, Pottery, Charocal, etc Smelter = Copper, Tin, Bronze, Iron, Silver, Gold, Glasswares, Rubber Blast Furnace = Steel, Aluminum, Nickle, Zinc, Vulcanized Rubber So please a split them into 3 types of items like a Kiln, Forge and Blast Furnace to represent the different levels of heat. This would really help not break Hydrocraft. Because if people can make Steel Ingot from yours then they never have to make a Hydrocraft Blast Furnace ever again. Which will suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertJohnson Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 It's only iron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewydeadmike Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Very excited about metalworking but I have one question with making blade items (knives, axes, future weaponry) are we going to hammer a piece of metal until it turns into a blade? or are we going to be able to use a grindstone to sharpen the flattened pieces of metal into actual blades, or possibly making existing tools sharper? Spoiler http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/871129-Make-your-own-Grindstone apparently making grindstones aren't to hard. Just needs cement, sand, a big circular mould, a metal rod and time. This could even work with the carpenter/blacksmith synergy as you could use a wood mold to put the cement in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strats Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Two thoughts: 1. Swords should not be craftable. Although a cool concept, sword-forging requires a training not had by metalworkers and cannot simply be taught out of a book to oneself. I understand that Average Joe has long since vacated the premises, but even so, the abilities of some professions, such as the engineers and bombs, are not totally out of question. But swords? I believe that including these would be the melee equivalent of adding machine guns and the like, and would seem out of place. Secondly, could the axes and the crowbars made by metalworking have a greyer texture with a simple wood handle? It would seem a little odd if a newly forged axe came out looking like it came from a factory, no? Sorry for the ramble, it's just that this addition has the greatest potential to twist the game onto the path of extreme unrealism (that is, unrealism that is unnecessary to make PZ playable) and should be handled very delicately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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