nasKo Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 And then, suddenly, fourteen days had rolled around once more… 41.51 IWBUMS BETA RELEASE 41.51 is pretty much cooked at this point, and the past few days we have been primarily addressing any potential incompatibilities on different / more elderly operating systems. We intend to release this early next week. The latest changelist for 41.51 can be found here. Some items of note: As previously mentioned, 41.51 contains significant optimizations to our save game system. As such any saved games played in 41.50 will NOT be operational or loadable. A separate Steam beta containing the previous 41.50 build will be provided so that you can continue and finish your current game. Similarly, in a changelist as big as this some mods WILL become incompatible – especially those dealing with loot distribution. We have kept the PZ Discord modding channels informed of the primary forthcoming change, but there will inevitably be a period of waiting before some of your favourite mods (and certainly mod packs) are fully operational again. Again, if you enjoy playing modded PZ then the 41.50 beta will still be there for you to use in the meantime. If you’re a modder who would like further information on what’s changing then please click through to this thread on our forum, where mapper extraordinaire TheCommander has also made a very handy forum post and easily understood infographic. Please be patient with all the community’s modder crew while they find the time to update their/our beloved mods! MP STRIKE FORCE As discussed previously we are now updating on all things MP every month – for the reasoning behind that decision please click on through. And so, here’s a run-down of what Yuri and Andrei have been up to over the past few weeks, followed up by a nice little vid that Yuri made for us. First of all, we added FPS data to our statistics. Servers will now collect FPS data from each client and collect it their statistical data. Seeing as the introduction of local ownership may lead to performance degradation on clients, knowing client FPS will help us to improve performance and as such we can use this tool in load testing. We then spent some time investigating zombie desync. We noticed that our zeds were pausing after they changed ownership between clients. As such we’ve made a fresh implementation of how zombie behaviour syncs. Right now the zombies will continue moving to the target and restore their state on a new client after changing ownership. What’s currently in the build is an initial implementation – we’re going to test how it works before developing it further. We implemented ‘get up’ sync for zombies. This bug could lead to zombies that were laying down on one client, but standing upright on another. We synced zombie falling. Zombies in local ownership now calculate the position and rotation of their fall point, and the client sends this information in the hitCharacter packet. Now all clients will show the same falling anim, and desync where zeds dropped in different places for different places is avoided. This issue also led to players seeming to finish off invisible zombies while you were playing. We had a long think about how we can improve a fight between a zombie and more than one player. A primary issue was how a zombie should react to hits from other players, as often ownership change can lead to desync. We had the idea that zombies should react to hits from their target player, but hits from other players would only lead to splashes of blood and a decrease of their health without a change in ownership. We’ve made an initial implementation of this, but it doesn’t seem to be a full solution yet – as such we will debug it, and potentially think of ways to improve or replace the system. We’ve spent some time updating our tools, specifically the fake clients we use to simulate a full and active server. Now clients can process zombie AI, we needed to simulate the same in our fake clients. This will help no end in our future testing and edge-case scenario simulation. NOISEWORKS Tomorrow (barring minor fixes) is the last day we have booked in for work with Noiseworks on their PZ Sound Revolution – although we are also making plans for a ‘Round 2’ to further improve the PZ soundscape, put some more work into the implementation of the procedural music system and respond to the feedback of the PZ community once it’s been released out into the wild. As such the Noiseworks build shouldn’t be *too* far behind the release of 41.51 into the public IWBUMS beta. The primary final polish that’s been put into Noiseworks over the past week or so has been on vehicles, music selection and general mix balance and bug fixing. Vehicles, especially, needed a little more love as gear changes / RPM and how the new sounds interacted with the existing PZ framework needed a fair bit of love. The vehicles are now 10x better than the angry lawnmowers currently in Build 41, though we intend to come back to them in Noiseworks Round 2 when we have more time to make some code-side improvements to help them out. Here’s a quick video of what they’re sounding like at the moment. (Please note there will be improvements to zombie collision thuds, car door and trunk noises before we release!) Something else we intend to release with the Noiseworks build are the 3D items that Rockstar Mark and RJ have been working with, but that’s not 100% at the moment as they’re working out the best ways to scale/rotate items in their export process. This is the way that a box of jars currently appears in-game, which isn’t… ideal? VCRS We want to shake up the current ‘spend the first week watching TV’ meta, while also introducing some new and typically 90s loot, and as such Turbo has been working on the PZ entertainment systems. This will be a simplified media playability version of the Devices branch that Turbo has had as a side project for a long time now, and will include retail CDs and VHS tapes – with common, rare and exceptional spawn changes depending on the recording. Clearly, some of these will also be the shows shown on the television with XP and skill bonuses. There will also be unique home VHS tapes, which will either be shows recorded by the people of the area or camcorder recordings, that have a 1 in 5 chance to attempt to spawn instead of a blank tapes. Clearly all this will be textual, just as the current TV and radio channels are, but we hope it’ll be a nice way of adding some more flavour to the world. There will be lots of new movies, TV shows and general new writing content. The ability to record material will not be in the build however, and will have to wait until Turbo’s fully fledged Devices side project (which includes computers and security systems) comes to fruition. Here’s a quick video of its current implementation, along with the ways that recordings can impact on your player’s skills and moodles if we so choose. PLEASE NOTE this won’t be how it ends up in the game proper. Being terrified by a horror movie to such an extent that it would leave you vulnerable to the zeds probably wouldn’t be much fun – so please consider WIP! LOUISVILLE Work on our version of Louisville continues, which as discussed in previous blogs is now visible in the mid-distance. This week we won’t be showing any new chunks of the map, as our map team continue to be quite protective of their giant sprawling baby, but maybe we can have a quick look at some of the new brands and locations that the more urban environment will bring. This week’s featured image from Rexiem. A changelist of all IWBUMS patches since the 41 beta was released can be found here. A general list of stuff added to PZ, and vids of features being worked on, is kept here – so you don’t have to plough through endless dev blogs for info. The Centralized Block of Italicised Text would like to direct your attention to the PZ Wiki should you feel like editing or amending something, and the PZ Mailing List that can send you update notifications once builds get released. We also live on Twitter right here! Our Discord is open for chat and hijinks too! Geras, agreubill, HerioJohnX and 11 others 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geras Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Wow, with the cool little LCD displays for radios and TVs I wish we had a UI overhaul for these. Something along the lines of having a low poly radio/tv model open in a new window instead of the current UI, with usable knobs and controls. DresdenBBQ, Magondivel, Tails and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Awesome cant wait for the next IWBUMS update. The vehicle sounds are very nice even those sirens are very nice cant wait for the noise works to get added. gabriel rodrigues brandao and Jaja 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebula Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) CD playback is very similar to how it was implemented in the text version of the iСDPlayers mod. I assumed that you will follow the same path. Unfortunately my knowledge was not enough to write a full-fledged interface for CD players. Edited July 15, 2021 by Nebula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerioJohnX Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Good Progress, love the CD and TV tape feature, can't wait! Thank you for your hard work! gabriel rodrigues brandao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaja Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Nice work!! I love you guys! gabriel rodrigues brandao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Quote -Require Windows 10 version 1803 (build 17134) or greater to enable the newer garbage collector. I am very concerned about this one line in the changelog. Does this mean that PZ will no longer be compatible with older OSes? As someone still on Win7, and with no intention to ever upgrading to Win10 (Here's me hoping that Win11 won't have as many privacy violations...), does this mean I'll become unable to play PZ after this patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazarito22 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 When is IWBUMS update ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDan Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, Nazarito22 said: When is IWBUMS update ? The third sentence of the blog at the top it is stated. We intend to release this early next week. gabriel rodrigues brandao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDan Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Blake81 said: I am very concerned about this one line in the changelog. Does this mean that PZ will no longer be compatible with older OSes? As someone still on Win7, and with no intention to ever upgrading to Win10 (Here's me hoping that Win11 won't have as many privacy violations...), does this mean I'll become unable to play PZ after this patch? Don't think you need to worry - Fairly certain this just means older OSes won't be able to utilize newer optimizations done to the garbage collector so you won't get specific benefits from it, if you're on an earlier build or older OS (to a degree). gabriel rodrigues brandao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyware006 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) Awesome. Please don't auto update xD or make it in a way that rolling back to 41.50 doesn't corrupt our saves. Thanks for your hard work. <3 Edited July 15, 2021 by Spyware006 Nebula 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebula Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) Leave the desktop radios - only for tape cassettes ... for "playing" (text) and broadcasting recorded (text from radio) tape cassettes. Please! This will create the possibility of custom broadcasts - in the form of text ... in the radio network of the server ... recorded by the players themselves - on cassettes. I did such experiments in mod ... and they ended successfully ... remote radio stations were broadcasting my text. Edited July 15, 2021 by Nebula trombonaught 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, MadDan2013 said: Don't think you need to worry - Fairly certain this just means older OSes won't be able to utilize newer optimizations done to the garbage collector so you won't get specific benefits from it, if you're on an earlier build or older OS (to a degree). Ah, hope that's the case. I've never had any speed issues with PZ (unless I am facing a horde that takes 2/3 of the screen, and if I am in that situation, clearly I messed up), so I don't think that'll be a problem for me. Also, thanks for not treating me like I'm some tinfoil-hatted lunatic, which is the way a lot of people react when they hear I am on Win7 because of security and privacy concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebula Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Blake81 said: Ah, hope that's the case. I've never had any speed issues with PZ (unless I am facing a horde that takes 2/3 of the screen, and if I am in that situation, clearly I messed up), so I don't think that'll be a problem for me. Also, thanks for not treating me like I'm some tinfoil-hatted lunatic, which is the way a lot of people react when they hear I am on Win7 because of security and privacy concerns. You are still under constant supervision, my friend :), don't be naive and welcome to Orwell's world. Faalagorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabriel rodrigues brandao Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 question it in the list of changes has pre-noise, does that mean in 41.51 will come the sounds of cars zombies death screams animals birds wind ettcccc? and also in the part of the blog that I didn't understand very well, as such, the noiseworks build shouldn't be *much* behind the 41.51 release in the IWBUMS public beta, sort of saying that the 41.52 build won't take as long to lansa after 41.51 or that sounds will be seen before now from 41.52 . , probably the amazing new sounds will not come 41.51 my pessimism is saying NO! more if it means that the new sounds are on 41.51, SUPER FUCKING Sorry, the word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HestrimChaosbrewer Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 It's late Friday night and no 41.51 yet and let me just say that I've got nothing but love for the devs at TIS, so polish away. You folks are gonna be rich when PZ 1.0 drops, cause even in beta Zomboid makes a b**ch out of other zombie sandbox/survival games. I've been playing PZ since 2014 and I still love every minute I get to play. I think I'm the most excited for the NoiseWorks to drop and also I'm kinda psyching myself up for the map changes that are off in the distance atm. As always, thanks for the time and effort devs... y'all rock!!! gabriel rodrigues brandao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fryhizzle Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I love this game, and this community. <3 to all of you for keeping the dream alive! gabriel rodrigues brandao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DresdenBBQ Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Deep fried heaven.. Enough to bring a tear to my eye. Man it'd be the bee's knees if you could fry stuff in this game, like c'mon man this is the SOUTH! Yet there's no way to take some steak, some flour, water and eggs and fry that bad boy into some CHICKEN FRIED steak! Chicken? Fry it! Veggies goin' bad? Bread that baby in buttermilk and throw her on the griddle! Even them zombies will start to be lookin' like a sweet savory SNACK when you batter them boys up. Deep Fried heaven indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcolley3 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 4:00 PM, MadDan2013 said: Don't think you need to worry - Fairly certain this just means older OSes won't be able to utilize newer optimizations done to the garbage collector so you won't get specific benefits from it, if you're on an earlier build or older OS (to a degree). I don't know what the garbage collector is but, I'm sure I can live without it. I have windows 7 and likewise never plan to go to windows 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcolley3 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 2:56 PM, Blake81 said: I am very concerned about this one line in the changelog. Does this mean that PZ will no longer be compatible with older OSes? As someone still on Win7, and with no intention to ever upgrading to Win10 (Here's me hoping that Win11 won't have as many privacy violations...), does this mean I'll become unable to play PZ after this patch? This is a great concern to me as well. I have windows 7, will never go to windows 10. If PZ becomes (now or in the future) only playable on 10, I will loose the ability to play the only game I have been playing since I found PZ (just over a year ago with over 1500 hours of play time). Dust is collecting on all my other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenal26 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) @Nasko... Will we be allowed to add (mod) lists to ProceduralDistributions.lua ? If so can you explain how we would do that ? Thanks in advance for any info you can share... Doh... disregard... figured it out... Edited July 20, 2021 by Arsenal26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake81 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 20 hours ago, fcolley3 said: This is a great concern to me as well. I have windows 7, will never go to windows 10. If PZ becomes (now or in the future) only playable on 10, I will loose the ability to play the only game I have been playing since I found PZ (just over a year ago with over 1500 hours of play time). Dust is collecting on all my other games. TBH, you can still play the latest games with Win7- Heck, I played CP2077 on High, and I never got any crashes or problems on it, it's all about your specs, and if you MEET a game's specs, you will be able to play it, regardless of if it says "Win10 Only". Of course, if the game has DX12 exclusively (so far, only the HZD port had that, and for me it was no prob as I have it on my PS4), it will not work. But as of right now, those games are far and few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDan Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/18/2021 at 5:31 AM, fcolley3 said: I don't know what the garbage collector is but, I'm sure I can live without it. I have windows 7 and likewise never plan to go to windows 10. In the most basic sense, garbage collection is a Java process that cleans up useless code to free memory for the program. In PZ this would come as playing for a few hours and having those microstutters for the collector to free up. But there's also times where it'd pause in the game as that process runs causing the stutters. Not 100% correct but from PZ's optimization perspective that's the gist. Key point: The new one being pause-less. numbersixthecat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lope Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 It's monsday my dudes, when the update will be? gabriel rodrigues brandao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasKo Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Lope said: It's monsday my dudes, when the update will be? On 7/15/2021 at 6:08 PM, nasKo said: We intend to release this early next week. numbersixthecat, Lope, HestrimChaosbrewer and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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