silents429 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 https://www.change.org/petitions/google-change-the-youtube-comment-section-back-to-its-original-form#share If anyone else is bothered like most people about the new comment system, forcing you to use Google+ In order to be notified of any new comments at all please sign the above.And help spread the word :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eth32 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 This is really annoying. Comments are one of the main reasons I log into my account everyday :/ EDIT: And I just realized I can't look at reply's normally anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathlord Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Google has become a scummy pit of shit lately. Can't even be fucked to sign a petition. CylonBookworm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCenturion Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 ... wait, if I use gmail, does that mean I have a Google+ account? Oh Christ, what have I done...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silents429 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 ... wait, if I use gmail, does that mean I have a Google+ account? Oh Christ, what have I done...?Ha. I had to switch from my Yahoo for my youtube because Google wouldn't shut up about it or let me use it the way I wanted too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CylonBookworm Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 yeah, it's a clusterfuck. Youtube won't last forever, and they are hastening it's demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harakka Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Because it turns out that hosting fuckloads of videos and having hojillions of people watching them is a fairly expensive endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckyman Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 The new system is really, really bad. Guess it's time to start streaming more. At least I can respond to questions that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontogenesis Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I don't really see the big deal. Youtube comments 99% of the time offer nothing to the video and are often one of the worse places on the Internet. You don't exactly need anonominity to use it, nor does having that add anything to Youtube. Youtube is a free service run by a business, they can make whatever changes they like, they don't need approval. If you don't like it, use another service. Freedom do what you like runs both ways. harakka, Spaniard and DatYandereGirl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I find the comment section of Youtube to be a pointless place of unending arguments and trolls and people trying to make other people visit, subscribe and like their channels and videos. Seeing that they do major changes to Youtube every now and then, would not be much bothered. Onto, they can make changes however they like but the changes should be in tune with the users. With that said, I agree with most of your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKrypton Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I normally like to respond on comments on my comment and most times there is a reasonable conversation, but now I have to go into 2 submenus to see if someone responded. And then a shitty message tells me google+ will do all that. I can even watch if there are conversations. It's just fucked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasKo Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I don't really see the big deal. Youtube comments 99% of the time offer nothing to the video and are often one of the worse places on the Internet. You don't exactly need anonominity to use it, nor does having that add anything to Youtube. Youtube is a free service run by a business, they can make whatever changes they like, they don't need approval. If you don't like it, use another service. Freedom do what you like runs both ways.There is no big deal on the user side of things. User an in people who watch a video.The content crator is kind of fucked atm, though, because the new system made it really hard for them to respond to their videos, hence why it's mainly content creators complaining about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silents429 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 I don't really see the big deal. Youtube comments 99% of the time offer nothing to the video and are often one of the worse places on the Internet. You don't exactly need anonominity to use it, nor does having that add anything to Youtube. Youtube is a free service run by a business, they can make whatever changes they like, they don't need approval. If you don't like it, use another service. Freedom do what you like runs both ways.We also have the freedom to petition changes being undone, Google is trying to shove the Google+ D down everyones throat on all google products and its not an effective system nor is it a good one, especially its interface.And they're are alternatives to Youtube.VimeoDailyMotion Xydonus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xydonus Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 They're forcing G+ and Pages T&Cs on to you, too. It's ludicrous. Why hasn't something better than Youtube come to light, yet? It's a convenient trap for those who are reliant on Youtube because Google knows that they can pretty much change anything they want within the T&Cs on Youtube. They can pretty much abuse the system to whatever way suits them because people who rely on Youtube for income and other means will have no choice but to accept. I made a post about this before; but the general response was "Hey, their a business and they can do whatever the fuck they want to you, even if it means screwing you sideways!" You know, the sort of people that would do well within the corporate world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silents429 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 This sums my opinion of Youtube up. I suggest you all watch the 11 second video.Also, I don't care if they are a business, or have complete control over it (which google is getting far more then it needs)Its search engine is going to get ditched the second they start asking for me to sign in to use it.And don't think they won't I smell that bad news all the way from the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckyman Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I don't really see the big deal. Youtube comments 99% of the time offer nothing to the video and are often one of the worse places on the Internet. You don't exactly need anonominity to use it, nor does having that add anything to Youtube. Youtube is a free service run by a business, they can make whatever changes they like, they don't need approval. If you don't like it, use another service. Freedom do what you like runs both ways. Well for starters they take 40% of any advertisement revenue from my videos so it's not really a free service unless you are an end user. As a content creator I am a paying customer... and I've been locked out of my own comments section unless I agree to use a social networking site I have no use for. In fact Youtube wont even allow me to link my existing G+ account to my channel. Even if I do step in line, I'm forced to create a new G+ page losing the 100's of followers I already built up over the last few years. Yes they can make whatever changes they like, but it sure would be nice if they asked the people providing them with the content that they earn advertisement revenue from. Or thought it through for longer than a minute before forcing it on everyone to prop up a failing social networking site. It's even more laughable when you actually take a look at the video explaining the changes and how it will make the comments section a nicer place to be, and the top comment on that video when I last checked was an ASCII penis so... yeah. Disruptive, frustrating, and demonstrably not effective on day one. That's just a taste of why it's a big deal for some people Xydonus, k12314 and Fj45 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebig44 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I can't freaking comment now, that was 1 of the resons i go to youtube often... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK'EZ-54 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Hah. Who uses Youtube these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathlord Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I wish businesses were still held accountable for scummy behavior just like they were 400 years ago. I'm as big a believer in free enterprise and capitalism as anyone else, but I feel tht along with that comes a responsibility to the people to keep businesses honest rather than the government. There's something to be say for an angry mob with pitchforks and torches burning a place down wen it ruins peoples lives and treats people like shit. In some ways, I wish our world was more like that- it would certainly check the rampant corruption and "fuck you" attitude corps like Gooe have now. The problem is that capitalism has expanded so much that it's kinda a crappy system for the consumer, which is the opposite of why capitalism exists. These companies have such a massive userbase and so many people are irresponsible with where they spend their money that it's become impossible for the consumer to keep companies honey, which as I said is the entire point of capitalism. Spaniard, CylonBookworm, plekpot and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixel Bombs Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Even though I think 99% of the Youtube community is absolutely awful, this is stupid. Are they using Youtube as a way to force people to get a Google+ account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticandRage Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Pretty much. I haven't posted a youtube comment since because my original youtube account seems to have disappeared in the transition. Even more annoyingly, last year my college switched over from hosting their own student email addresses, which you need in order to access all the school's online stuff, like library databases, and online teaching programs like angel and blackboard, to using gmail. So since gmail became a part of google + I have to deal with all that nonsense every time I have online homework to do for a class. It's really irritating. The whole thing. On top of the fact that it linked my original youtube account to my online college ID, so the account I need to use to do things like discuss important matters with my professors is now the same ID I'd used for years to tell stupid people on youtube that I thought they were stupid. My school's IT people are the real morons in the end it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathlord Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You're now forced to make a google plus account if you want to sign up for a YouTube channel, but it is possible to unlink them and then delete the g+ account, unless that's changed in the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticandRage Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I think I tried to do that at one point, but they made it enough of a hassle to do, on top of already being pretty put off by the whole thing, that I decided to just not deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xydonus Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You're now forced to make a google plus account if you want to sign up for a YouTube channel, but it is possible to unlink them and then delete the g+ account, unless that's changed in the last week. Nope. As I said before in my other thread about this, I tried doing exactly that. What happened as a result was that I got denied access to my Youtube channel soon as I unlinked them and deleted G+. All my videos are gone, can't access it again unless I decide to sign up for G+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebig44 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You're now forced to make a google plus account if you want to sign up for a YouTube channel, but it is possible to unlink them and then delete the g+ account, unless that's changed in the last week. Nope. As I said before in my other thread about this, I tried doing exactly that. What happened as a result was that I got denied access to my Youtube channel soon as I unlinked them and deleted G+. All my videos are gone, can't access it again unless I decide to sign up for G+. I think I tried to do that at one point, but they made it enough of a hassle to do, on top of already being pretty put off by the whole thing, that I decided to just not deal with it. Well this is bullshit, why are they forcing us to use Google+? No money, no popularity? If not what is it exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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