Øathbetrayer Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I strongly suggest armor is a must. Yes I read that at the moment it is a Maybe. I have lucky perk and thick skin and I still get scratched very very often when a zombie never even touches me (animation wise). We need to be able to pick up trash can lids as shieldsHunt for animals(future) and make leatherFind leather jackets, biker gloves, SWAT/Riot gear.Anti blood splatter gear, gas masks, eye wear, breathing apparatus. I feel very helpless in the game when I leave my base, and I feel it makes the game more complex(better). One of the first things I would do in real life is to dress in some sort of protective armor. apg504, Trojan_Turps, Gaffa Tape Warrior and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Good suggestion, but also this subject has been touched upon many times before, no doubt that the developers will add in some sort of self protection system whether it be biker jackets or salvaged metal... Øathbetrayer and uberevan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onkeen Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 It might come with the "clothing update", I think I have read something about it a few month ago. Adding defensive properties to cloth : a sweat will reduce the chance to get scratched on your arms in comparaison to a t-shirt. I think it's a planned feature and will obviously come with new kind of cloth, but remember that wearing a anti-riot suit during a sunny summer day will get very hot (so exaustion & thirst will increase really fast). Øathbetrayer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Øathbetrayer Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 Yeah I agree it should maybe have thermal effects. The game is far from done, so hopefully they make it happen.Thanks for the support guys, I would love to see armor in the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaSpectre Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 IMO armor should reduce speed, and increase heat depending on how much of you you have on, but can cause scratches if worn naked for long periods of time. you don't wear just Plate mail. or Chain Mail after all. Most of my scratches happen on the legs though, leg armor even rolled up magazines would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeRandomGuy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I strongly suggest armor is a must. Yes I read that at the moment it is a Maybe. I have lucky perk and thick skin and I still get scratched very very often when a zombie never even touches me (animation wise). This happens to me as well even when I'm in the middle of pushing a zombie back and it's staggering, I once got bitten in the leg by a zombie that was in the process of falling over backwards after being shoved. Much swearing resulted from that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDreaded1 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I've discovered if you take fit/athletic and stout/strong, you can swing an axe all day, whistle a jaunty tune, pop a beta blocker, and absolutely decimate hordes. Geras 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silents429 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I strongly suggest armor is a must. Yes I read that at the moment it is a Maybe. Well post anyway then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaSpectre Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I've discovered if you take fit/athletic and stout/strong, you can swing an axe all day, whistle a jaunty tune, pop a beta blocker, and absolutely decimate hordes.Until one decides it wasn't dead enough and scratches your toe uberevan and TheDreaded1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaster Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 IMO armor should reduce speed, and increase heat depending on how much of you you have on, but can cause scratches if worn naked for long periods of time. you don't wear just Plate mail. or Chain Mail after all. Most of my scratches happen on the legs though, leg armor even rolled up magazines would be awesome.I think the guy mean armor in the way of thick clothes like leather jackets and such. Properly speaking a perfect armor for a zombie apocalypse would be like the protective clothing weared by police dog trainers. Just a little less bulky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emiliano0086 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 IMO armor should reduce speed, and increase heat depending on how much of you you have on, but can cause scratches if worn naked for long periods of time. you don't wear just Plate mail. or Chain Mail after all. Most of my scratches happen on the legs though, leg armor even rolled up magazines would be awesome.I think the guy mean armor in the way of thick clothes like leather jackets and such. Properly speaking a perfect armor for a zombie apocalypse would be like the protective clothing weared by police dog trainers. Just a little less bulky. But i think it woudl be impossible to move properly, at least run away from a horde. I think what it has to be added is a low caliber bulletproof vest, it should be hard to find, and it`ll protect us only from pistol shots (in the chest zone, obviously) although we`ll sure suffer from a broken rib and injuries like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaSpectre Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Kevlar vests covering the arms and feet are more useful. Them scratches man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaster Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 IMO armor should reduce speed, and increase heat depending on how much of you you have on, but can cause scratches if worn naked for long periods of time. you don't wear just Plate mail. or Chain Mail after all. Most of my scratches happen on the legs though, leg armor even rolled up magazines would be awesome.I think the guy mean armor in the way of thick clothes like leather jackets and such. Properly speaking a perfect armor for a zombie apocalypse would be like the protective clothing weared by police dog trainers. Just a little less bulky. But i think it woudl be impossible to move properly, at least run away from a horde. I think what it has to be added is a low caliber bulletproof vest, it should be hard to find, and it`ll protect us only from pistol shots (in the chest zone, obviously) although we`ll sure suffer from a broken rib and injuries like that What I mean is a vest similar to the ones used to train attack dogs. Not the same vest. Have you see those jump suits used by F1 pilots? They are padded enought to prevent scratches and bites from zombies and are not bulky so they would not restrict movement speed. The only problem is that they are a lot hot so in the summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emiliano0086 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 IMO armor should reduce speed, and increase heat depending on how much of you you have on, but can cause scratches if worn naked for long periods of time. you don't wear just Plate mail. or Chain Mail after all. Most of my scratches happen on the legs though, leg armor even rolled up magazines would be awesome.I think the guy mean armor in the way of thick clothes like leather jackets and such. Properly speaking a perfect armor for a zombie apocalypse would be like the protective clothing weared by police dog trainers. Just a little less bulky. But i think it woudl be impossible to move properly, at least run away from a horde. I think what it has to be added is a low caliber bulletproof vest, it should be hard to find, and it`ll protect us only from pistol shots (in the chest zone, obviously) although we`ll sure suffer from a broken rib and injuries like that What I mean is a vest similar to the ones used to train attack dogs. Not the same vest. Have you see those jump suits used by F1 pilots? They are padded enought to prevent scratches and bites from zombies and are not bulky so they would not restrict movement speed. The only problem is that they are a lot hot so in the summer... Yes....i wonder where you`ll get one, XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaster Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 IMO armor should reduce speed, and increase heat depending on how much of you you have on, but can cause scratches if worn naked for long periods of time. you don't wear just Plate mail. or Chain Mail after all. Most of my scratches happen on the legs though, leg armor even rolled up magazines would be awesome.I think the guy mean armor in the way of thick clothes like leather jackets and such. Properly speaking a perfect armor for a zombie apocalypse would be like the protective clothing weared by police dog trainers. Just a little less bulky. But i think it woudl be impossible to move properly, at least run away from a horde. I think what it has to be added is a low caliber bulletproof vest, it should be hard to find, and it`ll protect us only from pistol shots (in the chest zone, obviously) although we`ll sure suffer from a broken rib and injuries like that What I mean is a vest similar to the ones used to train attack dogs. Not the same vest. Have you see those jump suits used by F1 pilots? They are padded enought to prevent scratches and bites from zombies and are not bulky so they would not restrict movement speed. The only problem is that they are a lot hot so in the summer... Yes....i wonder where you`ll get one, XD There's a race strip in the map of the game. Just take a look on the project zomboid map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emiliano0086 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 IMO armor should reduce speed, and increase heat depending on how much of you you have on, but can cause scratches if worn naked for long periods of time. you don't wear just Plate mail. or Chain Mail after all. Most of my scratches happen on the legs though, leg armor even rolled up magazines would be awesome.I think the guy mean armor in the way of thick clothes like leather jackets and such. Properly speaking a perfect armor for a zombie apocalypse would be like the protective clothing weared by police dog trainers. Just a little less bulky. But i think it woudl be impossible to move properly, at least run away from a horde. I think what it has to be added is a low caliber bulletproof vest, it should be hard to find, and it`ll protect us only from pistol shots (in the chest zone, obviously) although we`ll sure suffer from a broken rib and injuries like that What I mean is a vest similar to the ones used to train attack dogs. Not the same vest. Have you see those jump suits used by F1 pilots? They are padded enought to prevent scratches and bites from zombies and are not bulky so they would not restrict movement speed. The only problem is that they are a lot hot so in the summer... Yes....i wonder where you`ll get one, XD There's a race strip in the map of the game. Just take a look on the project zomboid map Oh, yes, you`re right!! sorry, my fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic_Kat Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 No offense guys but I think realistically all you'd need would be a sweater.... Has anyone ever tried to chew through cloth before? Humans (and z's) have very limited jaw strength and to actually "bite" through a piece of cloth would be near impossible. They'd have to chew on you for a bit to get through it, or rip it. All this ballistic gear is unnecessary imo. Maybe thicker jeans will rip less or leather jackets that will do the same. CaptKaspar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandPunkRailroad Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Full body flight suit, tank suit? Once Fort Knox of course..Or mechanics coveralls.. Hot but durable fabric.I'm opposed to plate armor. Just sayin'.. CaptKaspar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaster Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 No offense guys but I think realistically all you'd need would be a sweater.... Has anyone ever tried to chew through cloth before? Humans (and z's) have very limited jaw strength and to actually "bite" through a piece of cloth would be near impossible. They'd have to chew on you for a bit to get through it, or rip it. All this ballistic gear is unnecessary imo. Maybe thicker jeans will rip less or leather jackets that will do the same.The problem are not bites but scratchs. Except for leather jackets that are pretty resistant normally, most cloths are not designed to resist the pull of human hands. Its quite easily to rip clothes apart and a zombie would have no problem doing the same with a sweater and thus scratch the character. Thats why I mentioned tear resistant clothes like the jumsuits of F1 pilots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKaspar Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Kevlar motorcycle apparel. My jacket is mesh so that it is breathable and weighs maybe 2lbs, but still has an estimated 10,000lb tensil strength to resist any ripping or tearing. A zombie will not be able to bite through, or rip that jacket. Not to mention the built in shoulder, elbow, and back pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 No offense guys but I think realistically all you'd need would be a sweater.... Has anyone ever tried to chew through cloth before? Humans (and z's) have very limited jaw strength and to actually "bite" through a piece of cloth would be near impossible. They'd have to chew on you for a bit to get through it, or rip it. All this ballistic gear is unnecessary imo. Maybe thicker jeans will rip less or leather jackets that will do the same.OK just to be clear. I have got cuts through a sweater with little to no damage to the clothing itself.Then about the armor its something that has not been confirmed but is most likely going to be added due to the amount of people on the forums wanting it. Still it could be a while or even worse. It could be denied, pretty sure they confirmed it or mentioned it at some point but cant prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic_Kat Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 No offense guys but I think realistically all you'd need would be a sweater.... Has anyone ever tried to chew through cloth before? Humans (and z's) have very limited jaw strength and to actually "bite" through a piece of cloth would be near impossible. They'd have to chew on you for a bit to get through it, or rip it. All this ballistic gear is unnecessary imo. Maybe thicker jeans will rip less or leather jackets that will do the same.The problem are not bites but scratchs. Except for leather jackets that are pretty resistant normally, most cloths are not designed to resist the pull of human hands. Its quite easily to rip clothes apart and a zombie would have no problem doing the same with a sweater and thus scratch the character. Thats why I mentioned tear resistant clothes like the jumsuits of F1 pilots. I'd like you to perform an experiment: Take your shirt in both of your hands and see how much power it takes to rip your shirt apart, or even a sleeve. Honestly I think it'd be better if they did rip easier so you could ditch the piece and run. Clothes (in first world countries) are built to be durable and cheap. I'm not sure how a human fingernail would pierce a piece of clothing more than a human tooth. I'd suggest tight clothing that's not easy to grab on to, lightweight so as not to be too hot, and some duct tape to tape down edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic_Kat Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 No offense guys but I think realistically all you'd need would be a sweater.... Has anyone ever tried to chew through cloth before? Humans (and z's) have very limited jaw strength and to actually "bite" through a piece of cloth would be near impossible. They'd have to chew on you for a bit to get through it, or rip it. All this ballistic gear is unnecessary imo. Maybe thicker jeans will rip less or leather jackets that will do the same.OK just to be clear. I have got cuts through a sweater with little to no damage to the clothing itself.Then about the armor its something that has not been confirmed but is most likely going to be added due to the amount of people on the forums wanting it. Still it could be a while or even worse. It could be denied, pretty sure they confirmed it or mentioned it at some point but cant prove it. Was the cut due to a human grabbing you? I think the forum of people are wanting armor because they're forgetting that these Z's are basically slow, dumb, dead human beings. We're attributing superhuman powers to them when they simply don't exist. Now if they start going "Dawn of the Dead" (new version) on us, then yes I would think armor may be an awesome thing to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike280 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Ok, this is only my second post, but I've been playing for about 6 months now, so I hope you don't consider me too much a noob. However, if we're going by standard zombie lore, zombies don't have normal fingers. They've been clawing at the ground, walls, pretty much anything that's in their way for days/weeks. So it's believable that all that's left is sharpened bony points on their fingers. Those could very easily tear and snag on clothing. Keep in mind that teeth and bones are just hardened calcium at its most basic level. Even if the zombie were truly dumb and slow, all it would take is a passing grab to tear at clothing or exposed skin. CaptKaspar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmaster Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 No offense guys but I think realistically all you'd need would be a sweater.... Has anyone ever tried to chew through cloth before? Humans (and z's) have very limited jaw strength and to actually "bite" through a piece of cloth would be near impossible. They'd have to chew on you for a bit to get through it, or rip it. All this ballistic gear is unnecessary imo. Maybe thicker jeans will rip less or leather jackets that will do the same.The problem are not bites but scratchs. Except for leather jackets that are pretty resistant normally, most cloths are not designed to resist the pull of human hands. Its quite easily to rip clothes apart and a zombie would have no problem doing the same with a sweater and thus scratch the character. Thats why I mentioned tear resistant clothes like the jumsuits of F1 pilots. I'd like you to perform an experiment: Take your shirt in both of your hands and see how much power it takes to rip your shirt apart, or even a sleeve. Honestly I think it'd be better if they did rip easier so you could ditch the piece and run. Clothes (in first world countries) are built to be durable and cheap. I'm not sure how a human fingernail would pierce a piece of clothing more than a human tooth. I'd suggest tight clothing that's not easy to grab on to, lightweight so as not to be too hot, and some duct tape to tape down edges. I have and although it resist for a time the tearing if you grab the shirt by both sides of the fabric (sorry my english) If you take your shirt, grab the collar section by one of the sides only, and try to rip it you will easily tear it. Variations will occur but these will be based on the type of fabric used to make the shirt. Also there's the factor that if you ask a friend to rip your sweater (acting as the zombie) while you are trying to run away from him, both of you would be applying strength to the act (you running and he trying to grab you) and thus the sweater will rip apart more quick. The point is: normal clothing is not that resistant to tear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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