Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I know this may come off as...annoying and I'm sorry for that, it's truly not my wish to be annoying or to hurt this game in any form or fashion. I'm a Christian and I am a weird one. You see I believe God never truly sad cussing was bad, only using it in a bad context was wrong (makes sense considering a word alone is not technically bad just how you use it) I'm upset you see..... I see the future of NPCs bringing with them a bad thing.... Taking God's name in vain. I would request that you remove any misused context of the words God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, and Bible (and any words pertaining to these) I realize this is a lot to ask of anyone and I understand many will send a attack on me for saying this (verbally mind you)... I am willing to suggest a second option, make an option to disable those words in the NPC speech, I understand with coding that'd be even a further annoyance as it would require you to write two separate sentences for each one planned, not to mention the coding of the option to do so... I enjoy this game and this is only a request, people who are not Christians please understand where I'm coming from, if your married and a good person would you be ok if I told everyone she/he was a terrible person?No because you love him/her well I love my Father which is in heaven..... Please consider this as it has given me a heavy heart these past few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scriptimus Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Tis a pretty big request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagger Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I think it would be very dangerous for a project such as this to start pandering to any religion, where do you draw the line? Seems like a profanity filter could solve your issue but not sure its worth it. I personally don't see how its okay to smash some npc's head in with an axe to steal his orange soda but not okay to say "God Darn it". shannabul and Scriptimus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addy Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I could imagine thet at some point someone will mod a child friendly version of the script.Maybe that person is nice enough to also edit out all of the words you dislike in this game. It is however, as Scriptimus said, a big request and you should not request something like that to the developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboMat Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Tis a pretty big request. Actually it wouldn't be too hard to write a filter for certain words (I have done it for one of my mods). But I guess that it would be pretty low on the priority list to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 In retrospect, these are not humans. Furthermore I had no desire to be mean to them (I'm a trusting guy lol it's a good and bad thing) one could argue that the Bible says do not murder or even do not ponder murder, but when I play I neither ponder it nor do it. Make sense? Christian wise I take the Bible literally and apply it scientifically, example being if the Bible says to pluck out your eye if it causes you to sin what is it referring to? Some Christians would say that verse no longer pertains to us but if you take it as a metaphor such as if by looking at your computer at porn, remove the computer and look at it no more. Just certain things like that. But, I'm getting off topic ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboMat Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Reversely, wouldn't that mean that if your character says "god damn it" it's also not you who does it, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontogenesis Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Casual horrific violence, murder and theft is ok as long as you don't mention god while you do it? This is a rather silly request, no offense intended, I would suggest some flexibility in your beliefs as this is unlikely to change. I am a hardcore secularist and don't believe in special rules for any organisation... So perhaps I'm biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 If I may, to say that I shouldn't request this is a mute point. If there were for some reason a update that added child rape would you be inclined to request it's removal? To you it may seem very different, as a Christian I view all sin the same (though admittedly I fail in that department alot) I'm not saying they have to I'm simply asking, because it offends me as a believer and as a person. I would never request something unless it tore into me deeply because I'm that type of person. I would request that a Dev get on this topic a bit so I may talk to them, even if I am the only Christian in this community is it then that my voice cannot be at least heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkan Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 lol this request is really silly.. sorry but you say your a devoted christian yet your playing a violent survival game based on the very mechanics that you consider "sins" for example once NPC's are re-introduced some of them may be hostile and others peaceful, either way your gonna end up having to survive and defend yourself which involves, killing, theft and murdering ! But on top of all of this you consider the use of "foul" language in this game the biggest sin of all? Besides I don't care about your opinion being heard from the Dev's because i'm 110% sure they wouldn't consider your request as you are probably the only minority I've ever seen write such a thing on the forums as of late lol.I could state so many other reasons why your wrong here but I'll leave it here.But none the less everyone has freedom of speech, so it's totally up to you what you wish to say and for others to criticise you for so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboMat Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Well your voice was heard and I think there were some proper answers given already. I hardly doubt that any of the devs will tell you something different EDIT: Now I will leave this topic before it turns ugly and Enigma has to swing his ban hammer of justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scriptimus Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Child rape would havefend 99.9% of the world, I wouldn't really use that as an example tbh :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Your correct in your statement that it's not me doing it, but the line is I'm reading it. Violence has always been a mute point that no Christian or seculist can agree on. The point is I'm a dinner by nature as it's how Christians believe, by reading that I'm putting it in my head and I may say it. You could argue that it's the same with stealing and murdering, and some might agree with you. But I for one do not, is it easier to say a word and meditate on said word or to meditate on murder and do said murder? It's hard to explain how this middle ground is built. Also I respect your a seculist and don't want to give me special treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ontogenesis Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I can't see anyone saying you shouldn't have suggested it. You could always mod it - be simply a case of 'find and replace' of text files when they're released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 It's a loose example to be sure to use child rape but I will assume you get my point? Btw murder and killing is two different things, killing is self defense or in the defense of others, this the Christian faith allows. God didnt say you can't play said game or you can play this so it's open to discussion by the Christian base, one way to look at it is this: I don't play games where you murder innocent people, on the other hand fighting to defend someone or defeating someone who wants to do something evil is just, is this not even by world standerds true? Justice dictates that in itself does it not? That's what I'll always rest my case upon with video games, I don't expect you guys to understand or comply with my view, like I said there was no attempt to be in any way intrusive on the production of this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 @ onto, that sounds like a good way to deal with this, thank you for the suggestion. I'm computer savy with cyber defense and coding (a small understanding of coding) but modding is not my cup of tea lol, but this sounds fairly simple so thank you for the suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarkan Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Well at least your being very civil and nice about your view which I can respect, but theres only two ways you will get what you want If i'm honest.1, like many of other people have already stated, just learn how to mod the text files, theres some tutorials on the forum that are very clear and instructive on how to do so.2, your going to have to hope that someone else makes a child friendly mod although its very unlikely but I guess you can try to put your faith in that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 I also respect that some of you are being civil as well, I don't expect non-believers to act like believers if you feel me? Just as you don't expect believers to act like non-believers (or at least I hope you don't lol) As stated I thank you for your suggestion on the simply modification to the files, this will solve my problem and fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivster Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 i Myself am a religious person and I see where you are coming from. But We live in a world right now Where people die from starvation, kill each other over nothing, Rape and deform women, etc....... I think if you are that worried about a game having these words in them you might need to rethink your priorities. Other then playing a game that offends. We might take some time to make the real world a little better. You are my brother even if we come from different religions and again i hear your concerns. I think this is a bad way to proselytize. I doubt you will make a impact for God here(not that everyone here are perfidious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinyoshi Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I'd say leave it for a modder to either make a god filter mod, replacing stuff that could be offensive to non offensive text. or, one could always go through the lua files with all of the texts for npcs and edit it themselves. no offense, but if foul language is removed from the vanilla game, I will make the WORST and most offensive npc language mod. tomga1 and Scriptimus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 You might say that, and I would agree that I can and should always do more for God. As for me ring here, God gives us free time so why not and my priorities are Biblically correct as in with that (idk how to say that any more confusing) as a Christian I am supposed to confront sin wherever it is, big or small either way. Yet at the same time respect that the world is not Christian and that in order to convert I must be civil, it's how Jesus would want it. Although some times do call for drastic measures lol but I fear that a religious talk would be best put in the off topic section as to not remove attention from the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Lol kinyo ^.^ I understand, and like I said the modding of lua files is a great suggestion and if I ever need help with it I know there is a great friendly community here to assist me when I need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivster Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I to will help you mod the speech when NPCs are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooner535 Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 Thanks shiv, that's extremely kind of you to offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deprav Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I haven't read the whole discussion but you can also considere it like this :PZ is a role-playing game, meaning you'll find different kind of characters on your road, some will curse, some won't. Considere some characters are heretics, calling the name of your god in vain, and others are good god fearing people. You might even role-play a guy that doesn't want to team up with non-believers/cursing people. That could be fonny.But the game is supposed to show some kind of "real conception" of the world during a zombie apocalypse, and people curse irl ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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