Zombie horde should pile up

[MyTJ]

Disclaimer and link

 

I got this idea from answering topic #17273, named : PZ players might dislike this... (sorry linking does not seem to work)

 

I made a brief research and no relevant post showed up (if any, please advise).

 

I did find topic #17268, named : Bob's crazy ideas.  Although it's a bad name according to the suggestion guidelines, it has a few interesting ideas (that need polish in my opinion).

 

The idea is below

 

What happen when people try to rush in on a structure, say : a door during black friday?  Some trampling may be involved.

 

What happen when people trample another?  They get a little more elevation that, depending on the state of the tramplee (flat on the ground vs on all four), range between a couple of inches to roughly a foot.

 

What happen when there is a horde of zombies trying to break a wall down?  Is it possible for them to pile themselves up to cross over it?  Or for that matter, can the eventually reach a window or something?

 

Well they should.  They don't feel pain and are tireless.  Large enough group are bound to stack or climb upon each other to reach higher ground.

 

The net result

 

Large enough group should be able to reach, given some time, higher ground.

 

I would fix part of the single player floating base exploit, but not MP.

 

Balancing note

 

Group of zombies should be large.  Even then, it should take time (i.e. it is not automatic and rely on a probability check) to take into account the fact that they need to climb upon one another.

 

Success (i.e. a zombie reach +1 floor) should increase with the number of zombies in a given space.  It would be more precise to speak about density.

 

Reaching higher then +1 floor would require enough success in the group so as they get a chance to get even higher (thus taking even more time).

 

Concerns

 

The animations... zombie trampling each other and piling up require new animation to show the vertical effect.  Personnaly, I would not care about a simplification such as a few zombies trying to get higher from time to time, even if it's not the zombie that do get higher.  Some may feel that it's a bug though.

 

Zombie damage... bruising from trampling is out of the question, but there is still broken bones.  A simple solution would be that zombie randomly become the crawling type, they would have a decreased chance to get higher up but could still count as far as the horde density is concerned.

[Blasted_Taco]

 

First thing that came to my mind, i remember laughing out loud in the theater watching that.

 

Please no, don't let that scene happen in PZ, there are better ways to fix the flying fortress than doing this, make the zombies be able to grab the rope and break it by pulling it by mistake and leave the player without a base, but please don't bring WWZ tier action into the game..

[BayCon]

 

First thing that came to my mind, i remember laughing out loud in the theater watching that.

 

Please no, don't let that scene happen in PZ, there are better ways to fix the flying fortress than doing this, make the zombies be able to grab the rope and break it by pulling it by mistake and leave the player without a base, but please don't bring WWZ tier action into the game..

 

Beat me to it with the video and your opinion about the matter. You just saved me from typing a post with the same opinion, but said in greater length.

[MyTJ]

Well, I was not thinking along the lines of such extreme.

 

If you read back my post, you'll notice I talk about chance of it happening.

 

Quite frankly, I agree that such a "spear-like" pile-up is ludicrous.  It was never intended to provide those result (assuming carefull balancing, where some altitude are never possible unless there is a big enough base on the floor immediately below).

 

In reality, it would look more like a pyramid then a spear.

[CaptKaspar]

Well, I was not thinking along the lines of such extreme.

If you read back my post, you'll notice I talk about chance of it happening.

Quite frankly, I agree that such a "spear-like" pile-up is ludicrous. It was never intended to provide those result (assuming carefull balancing, where some altitude are never possible unless there is a big enough base on the floor immediately below).

In reality, it would look more like a pyramid then a spear.

I think the idea is sound. I think it's plausible and realistic. I have read a number of zombie novels where this type of thing happens. The survivors kill zombies and the oncoming zombies have a 'step' to get a little higher. Eventually enough dead corpses would make a ramp of sorts that a determined zombie could eventually walk/crawl up.

Getting higher than one story? I don't know about that though. But clearing a fence, a one story wall, a bar element, or a couch? I'd say that's feasible for a large enough group of zombies to do.

Honestly, what would stop them assuming there is a large enough group?