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So, my 18 year old brother just called Battlefield 3 a "gay rip off" of CoD

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Ah youth is such a glorious yet fleeting experience. Soon he will be complaining that most sportsmen/singers are younger than him and that he is "old".

 

Soon...

he has been saying he is "to old for this" when he has to run to something.

 

Is that the rip-off of a Duke Nukem 3D Normandy Landing mod?

"oh em gee, i am thinks so!"

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Let's be open here, he didn't mention which CoD it was a rip-off of, and the Call of Duty franchise was around before Battlefield3, so it quite likely does borrow quite a few elements from Call of Duty.

 

That being said, the only Call of Duty games worth ripping anything from would predate 2005 (yes, we all know CoD2 was likely the last 'original' content in the series). In a similar manner, anything after the Battlefield2 boosters is an utter load of **** (don't even get started on Battlefield Bad Company and friends).

 

So in one respect, due to his ambiguity, your 18 year old brother is absolutely right. Had he specified which Call of Duty game BF3 was a "gay rip off" of, then he'd probably be being chased down the road by a mob of angry farmers with pitchforks swarm of Battlefield fanboys waving their collectors/premium editions in the air.

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Let's be open here, he didn't mention which CoD it was a rip-off of, and the Call of Duty franchise was around before Battlefield3, so it quite likely does borrow quite a few elements from Call of Duty.

 

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the first cod was released 1 or 2 years later after the first bf was released. so bf was the first game - it can't be a copy or a rip off.

 

cods only advantage was the xbox and ps release. you'll always get a bonus for being the first in something.

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Never had the money to buy any CoD games, bf3 all the way.

 

Loved the super long range sniping which was extremely hard, and the goddamn jets which were super hard to fly. Ah, good days.

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Been playing BF since 2006. I also got COD: Modern Warfare when it came out. BF has changed a lot in these past 8 years. COD has not changed (literally the exact same game with only slightly better graphics in 2014) and is still garbage compared to any BF game. The BF games have changed massively in the past few years. BF2 was actually more arcady feeling than COD:MW but since then we've had 2142, BF:BC, BF3 (COD garbage) and BF4... all I can really say about BF4 is good-bye, I'll be back when the PZ map expansion is finished. ^_^

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Yeah they are both modern action/arcade shooters. Not really that generic if you think about it, sure they are using the same recipe for many years (And they are entitled to, it is their recipe after all). Just think a moment about the alternatives to those two franchises.

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in fallout NV Las Vegas wasn't hit by any nukes. Neither was Pittsburgh in "The Pitt" DLC for Fallout 3  BUT.  inhabitants of The Pitt that have suffered neurological damage from being exposed to the infected water and poisoned sky,

 

The only destroyed buildings in NV were by the Riots following the months after the Great war. 

 

No raiders, barely any mutated creatures besides slightly larger Geckos and Radroaches. Humans are a dominant force and people can be seen wandering the wasteland  SAFELY. that is a crime against the starving inhabitants of Washington DC, you can come across those who never made it to the larger settlements, entire families. Some people have turned to Cannibalism (so have those casino people in NV but that's not from hunger)  Death is a fact of life in the capital wasteland

 

The ending of fallout 3 effects everyone (poisoned water wiping out many lone survivor groups or free purified water) but in NV the Hoover dam is mostly taken by a single faction unless you go by Mr house. Most people carry on their extravagant lives in the strip with neon lights and restaurants like normal. Even in fallout 3 Rivet city has disease.

 

Fallout NV there is no trace of your past life before the amnesia. So nobody knew him/her? Fallout 3 there is an entire back story

 

 

And setting a post nuclear war in the Mojave? That was already a wasteland.

 

Also NV never encouraged you to explore it's vaults. which had such great back stories.

 

Also the maximum rad/s in NV is 8. you have to hunt down radiation in that game. there are places with 300 to 1000 rad/s in Fallout 3. 

 

Fallout New Vegas feels like a sims game with guns. Sims is a good game but I signed on to play a post apocalyptic world where chaos and sadistic raiders left people constantly in fear.

 

Also no three-dog

 

I guess it improved with weapons and reputation but Karma just didn't matter. Which is bad.

 

No slavery or deep moral choices

 

something that Bethesda ruined in both games. Unlike fallout 1 + 2 you can't kill children. Damn those little lamplighters I hate them soooo much

 

Fallout 3 uses real suburbs of Washington as those ruined towns  Arlington, Annandale ( renamed Andale because of the faded sign), Bethesda, , Germantown, Fairfax, Alexandria and Olney, Falls Church, Georgetown and more

 

deeper back story to be found eg.

 

Bethesda's surviving residents  became raiders attacking evacuees from the city

 

Germantown Police H.Q became a medical refugee camp for D.C residents with radiation and disease fleeing the burning city and its riots

 

Annandale's surviving four families (now two) turned to Cannibalism due to lack of food.

 

Paradise falls shopping centre became a slaving hub 

 

Fairfax was overrun by Raiders

 

The D.C. area was hit more severely than the West Coast, due to its military and political areas along with the fact it lacked a defense system against nuclear attacks.

As a result, the local inhabitants are far more hostile and only are friendly to members of their group as in the many raider tribes. Pockets of radiation are far more frequent and in higher concentrations. Purified water is extremely scarce as well as any kind of fresh food. There is little flora, with the dead husks of trees littering the area.

 

The buildings in the D.C. ruins have been hit the hardest structurally as most are either completely destroyed, are falling apart, literally falling into each other or just barely standing. The streets are littered with rubble and are largely impassible, forcing explorers to mainly rely on sewers and subways to navigate the city, most of which have caved in.

Any functional buildings are either a constant war-zone or are heavily fortified by a group of wastelanders, mostly in the southeast section of the Wasteland. Most of the northern and southern parts of the Wasteland are far more inhabitable, but don't have enough pre-War resources to support many people. Thus, only hermits, raiders, and wastelander families still inhabit these desolate areas.

There is never any form of precipitation.

 

Slavery is a common occurrence as it is fairly easy, pays large amounts of caps (which are the standardized currency in the area), slaves are always needed and is an easy way for someone to quickly gain powerful weapons. Groups of marauders called raiders attack unsuspecting or weak travelers using tactics similar to guerrilla warfare. The raiders take pride in strength, attack anyone who is weak, and their favorite activities are torture and killing.

The old world is still prevalent beyond the bombed out building and radiation. Ghouls are fairly common, partly due to the large pockets of radiation, irradiated food, and the large population of people during the Great War.

 

Ghouls, although having better knowledge of the terrain and its technology that has survived, have become the points of ridicule among some of the various denizens.

Murder is a common occurrence as well, with the pre-War laws having been long neglected and forgotten. Either because a person needs to kill another in order to get a precious scrap of food or water, to show a power of dominance or just simply because they don't care about other people's lives (examples: Mr. Burke, Eulogy Jones, etc.).

 

Few water based organisms are still alive due to radiated water besides mirelurks, which inhabit whats left of the Potomac River. Mirelurks usually can be found in dark, damp, and radiated areas, especially the Nuka-Cola plant. Some Mirelurks have expanded as far as to Point Lookout.

Super mutants are far more common in the DC area than in the west and, as there is little in the way of an effective military, a person must either have extreme luck, be heavily armed or hope they run into a Brotherhood of Steel patrol in order to survive an encounter with a super mutant.

Drug use is still a common occurrence in the Capital Wasteland. In fact, they're one of the few things that are being freshly produced along with medicinal drugs for medical needs though they are pretty expensive.

Though not all hope is lost for the Capital wasteland.

Not all residents of the Capital Wasteland are violent. In fact, there are a fair number of settlements with a population of civil (although sometimes unsavory) people (examples: Megaton, Rivet City, Tenpenny Tower).

 

Some of the inhabitants even try to keep some form of order in the Capital Wasteland. The Regulators seek out criminals and kill them. The Temple of the Union tries to help runaway slaves. The East Coast Brotherhood of Steel contains a large portion of the super mutant threat with regular patrols in the DC ruin.

Beyond drugs, people are trying to manufacture new goods, grow food and even have their own version of "wasteland recycling". Rivet City is currently the only producer of non-irradiated food and is working on portable fusion power. Point Lookout has also proven to be a reliable source of supply, especially its punga fruit. Motorcycles are being turned into sets of metal armor. Weapons, such as the Shishkebab and railway rifle, are being made out of materials originally thought to be junk.

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Woo-hoo! Fallout dsicussion! Go-go-go.

Los Vegas was bombed -- just not as significantly as other areas.

You . . . do realize New Vegas is supposed to be set hundreds of years after the war, right? Not, like in Fallout 3, 20 years after (don't care what Bethesda says, that's what it looks like). Even in Fallout 2, the world was rebuilding and organizing, but in Fallout 3 that's thrown out.

And your entire backstory ceases the matter once you step outside of the vault in Fallout 3, just as it ceases to matter in New Vegas once you take a bullet to the brainpan. The only difference is you don't wonder around saying "I'm looking for a middle aged man" to sum it up.

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Woo-hoo! Fallout dsicussion! Go-go-go.

Los Vegas was bombed -- just not as significantly as other areas.

You . . . do realize New Vegas is supposed to be set hundreds of years after the war, right? Not, like in Fallout 3, 20 years after (don't care what Bethesda says, that's what it looks like). Even in Fallout 2, the world was rebuilding and organizing, but in Fallout 3 that's thrown out.

And your entire backstory ceases the matter once you step outside of the vault in Fallout 3, just as it ceases to matter in New Vegas once you take a bullet to the brainpan. The only difference is you don't wonder around saying "I'm looking for a middle aged man" to sum it up.

I must be the only man on earth that likes Fallout 3. :P

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