Do custom mod maps have loot respawning?

[Lisari]

I just set up a dedicated server with some friends, and after adding and testing some maps, we noticed that items weren't respawning, unlike in the vanilla cities where this doesn't seem to be a problem. Do you know how I can fix this?

[EnigmaGrey]

7 hours ago, Zelta said:

me and probably thousands of people are tired of this 'thing'

 

- if this is a mod issue, devs should just give the correct instructions to the modders. be grateful to them and to the community.

- if this is a game thing, devs should just fix it. enough years in developement for a simple loot respawn that doesnt work.


and every week another dude opens a thread, so whats the point to close those? its weird.
keep the tread open and maybe someday we can find a solution. 

 

The correct instructions are in our tutorial. Step 6.

 

Threads get archived automatically by IPBB when they're inactive for a long time. Regardless, the fixes are in various threads about the same issue, as I've linked.

 

Overall I found a whole 4 posts here for the past 8 months, excluding this one. I'm sure there's more on Steam ("loot respawn broken" returns a whole 29 threads since 2013), but for a game with 20-40K players per hour, this tells me it's exceedingly rare (although I get why it's frustrating when you're trying to deal with the issue).  Remember, the game is 12 years old and Google is going to be giving you an awful lot of results from 8-9 years ago around the time when we transitioned from maps without zones to maps with zones.

 

In general, I'd not recommend people add or remove maps without resetting the map. It's just asking for trouble. Now maybe that is something we can sort at some point, but until and if that happens, I'd suggest just wiping the save.

 

[Zelta]

dude, u losted more time trying to justify yourself than helping. 

not clearly asnwers or solutions. and it feels like you guys get mad for your things not working.

maybe we have to wait another 12 years until having a easy and clear way to add map mods that have loot system works.
 

[EnigmaGrey]

1 hour ago, Zelta said:

dude, u losted more time trying to justify yourself than helping. 

not clearly asnwers or solutions. and it feels like you guys get mad for your things not working.

maybe we have to wait another 12 years until having a easy and clear way to add map mods that have loot system works.
 

You’re welcome to ask for clarification on anything you’re having issues with in the above linked threads, but I don't see how i can help beyond that.

[Lisari]

On 28/9/2023 at 1:39, Beard said:

¿Los elementos no reaparecen únicamente en los mapas modificados? Deberías informar estos problemas al creador del mod.

Could you please explain which file I should modify to resolve it on my own? This is because the mod creators may not respond to my inquiries since I don't have a way to communicate with them directly. Thank you!

For example, I know that this mod does exactly what I need, but I don't understand its code-level functionality, and I also have no way to contact the author for an explanation. Thank you for your help!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=italian&id=2977324300&searchtext=

[Lisari]

Expanding on the question, I'd also like to mention that on the in-game map, the VSH store in March Ridge is not visible. Interestingly, it doesn't seem to regenerate loot either. Could you please kindly advise me on what I should modify in the files to address this issue? I apologize for any inconvenience, as I've had difficulty finding much information about this online. Your assistance is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[Lisari]

22 hours ago, Beard said:

¿Y sabes qué mapas tienen el problema? Ya que no enumeraste ninguno.
No es un problema del juego, no hay informes de que esto suceda en el mapa normal, ni hay informes de que esto suceda en las modificaciones de mapas más populares.

Bedford falls, for example. 

Perhaps there haven't been reports because server owners modify the files and resolve it themselves. I'm not a programmer, and unfortunately, I don't know any Lua programmers either. That's why I'm reaching out to you for help. I apologize for any inconvenience, and I appreciate your assistance. Thank you for your understanding.

[EnigmaGrey]

Bedford is quite an old map, but was updated in 2021. So it might not ultimately be the zones, but

Find the Objects.lua file in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\108600\522891356\mods\Bedford Falls\media\maps\BedfordFalls\

 

You can open it in Notepad and add Townzones as necessary, there. Anywhere there's a townzone, loot should respawn.

I'll forward that workshop item to the map team, as well, to compare against the existing list and see if those same holes exist in b42 or not.

[Lisari]

2 hours ago, EnigmaGrey said:

Bedford es un mapa bastante antiguo, pero se actualizó en 2021. Por lo tanto, es posible que en última instancia no sean las zonas, pero

busque el archivo Objects.lua en C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\108600\522891356. \mods\Bedford Falls\media\maps\BedfordFalls\

 

Puede abrirlo en el Bloc de notas y agregar Townzones según sea necesario allí. En cualquier lugar donde haya una zona urbana, el botín debería reaparecer.

También enviaré ese elemento del taller al equipo de mapas para compararlo con la lista existente y ver si esos mismos agujeros existen en b42 o no.

 

I'm in the file, looking at the code. I apologize for my ignorance, but could you please be a bit more detailed about what I should do exactly? Or perhaps share a tutorial? How do I create my own mod that modifies the reloot zones on my dedicated server, similar to the one here: [https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2977324300]? Your guidance and assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

[Lisari]

This is how I solved it on my server, if you want to go see the mod and understand the code, it is commented.

 

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3043971994

[Beard]

Do the items only not respawn on the modded maps? You would need to report such issues to the mod creator.

[Zelta]

me and probably thousands of people are tired of this 'thing'

 

- if this is a mod issue, devs should just give the correct instructions to the modders. be grateful to them and to the community.

- if this is a game thing, devs should just fix it. enough years in developement for a simple loot respawn that doesnt work.


and every week another dude opens a thread, so whats the point to close those? its weird.
keep the tread open and maybe someday we can find a solution. 

[Beard]

1 hour ago, Zelta said:

me and probably thousands of people are tired of this 'thing'

 

- if this is a mod issue, devs should just give the correct instructions to the modders. be grateful to them and to the community.

- if this is a game thing, devs should just fix it. enough years in developement for a simple loot respawn that doesnt work.


and every week another dude opens a thread, so whats the point to close those? its weird.
keep the tread open and maybe someday we can find a solution. 

And do you know which maps have the issue? Since you did not list any.
It is not a game issue, there are no reports of this happening on the normal map, nor are there any reports of it happening on most popular map mods.

[EnigmaGrey]

I can’t imagine how this could break beyond a mapper not zoning their map or a server admin accidentally turning off loot reapawn or enabling ConstructionPreventsLootRespawn. 

 

Note, this is fairly unlikely compared to a settings issue: If you have an automated service controlling the server that just kills the process  or you yourself kill it without sending the save and quit commands, data loss (such as time keeping) is expected. PZ isn’t set up to be a background application, yet many providers and hosts and users try to force it to be one.

[Zelta]

2 hours ago, Beard said:

And do you know which maps have the issue? Since you did not list any.
It is not a game issue, there are no reports of this happening on the normal map, nor are there any reports of it happening on most popular map mods.

cmon dude. there is hundred of posts everywhere. just fix it.

[EnigmaGrey]

50 minutes ago, Zelta said:

cmon dude. there is hundred of posts everywhere. just fix it.

 

 

Or maybe it's a settings issue?

 

Or maybe the map's zones weren't properly defined? Or a conflict because the world wasn't reset after adding/removing the mods.

 

 

Could even be setting up a server in such a way that time and other metadata become corrupted on shutdown?