Smiley Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Around the area I live (I live in Northern Kentucky) I can think of a great amount of creatures that'd make great additions to the game as huntable/trappable food sources: (The Obvious) DeerDeer are very populous around here and would only get moreso without more hunters. They're also very quiet and would not rouse attention from wandering stiffs. Deer meat is absolutely awesome for cooking, but there is a danger one should be wary of - in certain seasons, Lyme disease is a huge risk. If the inherent danger of contamination is taken into consideration, this could make hunting deer in Project Zomboid risky but rewarding, as that is probably going to be the only source of red meat available after power goes out. Deer meat could go toward any recipe that uses raw red meat.Potential Loot: Deer Meat, Antler, Hide, Innards [Fishing/Compost?] Wild TurkeysWild turkeys range all around the area I live, one can even see them crossing roads sometimes in their little flocks. Good meat, and plenty more on them than any chicken. There's also less disease risk than, say, Deer - but eating raw would still be higher chance of sickness than starter, fridge found meats. A zombie might have a hard time even getting close to a Turkey given how easy to spook they are.Potential Loot: Whole Turkey, Feathers, Innards [Fishing/Compost?] Hungry Coyotes & Feral DogsKentucky, and many other places, are lousy with Coyotes since they got reintroduced after about being wiped out. Now, especially in my county, there's literally open hunt on Coyotes to keep the populations in check (and it's still not very effective). Also, tons of people keep Dogs here - they're a lot more popular than Cats, at least in my area, and there'd be a ton of ownerless dogs turning feral. Depending on how lore is determined for Project Zomboid, these wild dogs could be more hungrier or less hungrier. In the Walking Dead Comics, most predators like feral dogs or birds can still eat Zombies, so they'd be a lot less on the hungry side and breed in large numbers. If we're going by Max Brooks/NoTLD staple, animals avoid stiffs like the plague they are, so they'd be a lot more hungry and brazen (and likely dangerous to players). Either way, Coyotes and Feral Dogs could be a source of red meat that might keep a player alive - as well as a threat while travelling, especially in wooded areas. Given that they are capable of being very fast, relatively social, and might have been eating zombies (or at least, scavenging filth), bites could cause all range of diseases and death. Big survival challenge.Potential Loot: Dogmeat, Hide, Innards [Fishing/Compost?] (Feral) Cats, Rabbits, Groundhogs, and SquirrelsAs unpalatable as it may be, there will be tons of feral housecats in a Zombie Apocalypse. While cats aren't as popular in my area, there are many spots I do know of where stray cats are extremely common and would be a much more accessable food source than most game (let's not get soft here, folks, this game is about survival). Consider also that cats will undoubtedly be trapped in houses when their owners are zombified and could turn quite feral without food. Scratches from feral cats could get infected easily and be a challenge to the player. I'd imagine that most cats would generally flee zombies to mixed effect, and do breed fairly rapidly. Likewise, small mammals like Rabbits, Groundhogs, and Squirrels are common even in towns out here. They'd be very spookable and flee from zombies or non-stealthing players, but with the right means (Such as traps) could provide handy foodsources.Potential Loot: Mystery Meat, Pelt, Innards [Fishing/Compost?] (Feral) Chicken & Wild FowlMany people near me have chickens they just let freerange on their land, and the things usually stick to yards. Zombies would be attracted to eating the chickens and could overwhelm them, but most chickens will flap/flutter away easily without anyone to keep their wings trimmed. Likewise, Ducks/Geese are common, but so are ground Pheasants and other small birds that are quite edible. It'd be nice to include nests with lootable eggs, so that players can have access to such things after power goes out. As cliche as it is, one shouldn't have a game that takes place in Kentucky without the ability to make Fried Chicken.Potential Loot: Whole Fowl, Feathers, Innards [Fishing/Compost?] Pondlife & FishA fishing system should definitely be included in Project Zomboid, maybe even with its own skill. Fishing is very common around Kentucky. There's plenty to catch, from Bluegill, Catfish, Bass, to Gars (*which aren't very useful for meat, but hey, they're there to annoy), even large Crawdads. Heck, there are bullfrogs in my ponds that weigh as much as cornish hens with legs like small drumsticks. I'd absolutely love for these kinds of things to be catchable in Project Zomboid for a character to survive off of. Zombies would not have access to most of these creatures and thus could provide a relatively safe foodsource for players willing to invest the time/luck. Potential Loot: Fish, Fish Bones, Innards [Fishing/Compost?], Dead Frog, Crawdad I'm hesitant to include Wild Boar and Elk on here, as they don't to my knowledge tend to get close to suburban/urban centers. I do know that Wild Boar are getting brazen and would only get moreso during a Zombie apocalypse, though - they might be an additional consideration. Tsambo, DoctahWong, Marianne Asteri and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctahWong Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Interesting concept of the future hunting and wildlife mechanic, what about bears and cougars?, i know nothing about KY, but i'm sure bears live in the forests of KY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viceroy Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I have been jonesing for bears since day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenye Deithven Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Dragons ! ...oh, wait, did the OP say huntable or hunting ? Seriously, though, wasn't there a sprite of a rabbit going around some while ago ? Also, what about rats ? If we find dead ones, why not trap the living ? Are there any dev guidelines (couldn't find anything relevant) on how will animals react to a player (neutral / aggressive) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted March 14, 2014 Author Share Posted March 14, 2014 I had a talk with my friends not long about bears in a zombie apocalypse in particular (we were playing the Zoo expansion to Zombies!!! Board game, which kind of led to it). There are black bears around here but they're usually in fairly protected parkland spots to my knowledge. It'd be likely they'd start getting bolder as the apocalypse went on, but at first it'd be rare to see them. If they did make it into Project Zomboid, it'd be interesting and finding one would probably be one of those 'oh-CRAP - don't p--s it off' kind of uncommon situations. Cougars are in a pretty bad way around here near so far as I know - though wildlife cams people have on their land pick them up sometimes and cause a bit of a scare with the farmers. I doubt there'd be sufficient population (at least at first) to be much of a concern. If the game took place about ten years post the apocalypse, it'd be more likely to see some. It'd probably take longer than that. I don't think it'd be like Red Dead Redemption style cougar attacks for at least a couple decades, though. What'd be really cool is as you progress in time in the game, more and more wildlife starts making its way into suburban areas. When you first start off, you don't see too much, but by about your 4th-6th month, you start seeing more coyotes, bears, deer, and other creatures getting bolder by the lack of noise from cars and living people. Oh, and I forgot to include Opossums, Skunks, and Raccoons on my list - how dare I. Heh. They're all very common around here to the point of being common pests. Imagine running into a Skunk - as if the zombie apocalypse wasn't bad enough as it is. Their musk could cause a moodle that causes depression. All three of those could wreck some hard worked on farm plots. But hey, the meat could be a consolation prize for losing your precious patches. Also, dragon attacks have been at an all-time low since Skyrim came out. Video games cause violence, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomiboi Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 What'd be really cool is as you progress in time in the game, more and more wildlife starts making its way into suburban areas. When you first start off, you don't see too much, but by about your 4th-6th month, you start seeing more coyotes, bears, deer, and other creatures getting bolder by the lack of noise from cars and living people.Oh, this with the erosion mod... Mmmm... doughnuts... Oh sorry! I mean that would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Pretty detailed suggestion. I would LOVE to see wildlife in PZ. To just kinda add some atmosphere. But... Bears.... Yes, it would be one of those oh s**t moments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daec Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 do we really need 4 threads about wildlife, animals and hunting at the same time? may i remind everyone to remeber the rules please?no offense just reminding to keep things organized. if i search for hunting i get 67 results, i guess there would have been a topic to put this one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 I have not done a search myself and I do not know how detailed these other suggestions were. Even 67 results might offer some differing observation or point of interest another might not have. When designing a game, it's a good idea to have a variety of things to draw from - 67 posts might have the same points in most cases, but maybe one or two insights that are somewhat different; really go 'huh... didn't think of it that way, that's kind of cool' and be taken into consideration for this game. In particular, I put this on here because I live near the area the game takes place in and wanted to offer insights of a person who lives here and occassionally hunts. Are my suggestions that different from others? Possibly. Possibly not. Does not change the fact that I offer them and hope they're considered in the game. I'm still pretty new here, so I haven't read the pages upon pages of suggestions. I have, however, read the rules and the stickies. So yes, I put this concept and labeled/tagged it thus. Perhaps I should've titled it "Additional Kentucky Wildlife Insights" or something more specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daec Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I just mentioned it, that a quick search would have been a good idea. Additionally i would like to direct you to the [read before posting] threads so you know why i do so CanadianWolvie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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