Tyson14 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 after surviving for 20 days i lit a campfire for the first time in the game i wanted to take a picture and i walked near the campfire and got burned and died what a stupid death after surviving so long i think the developers should reconsider some mechanics unrealistic that the game has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchernobill Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I am sorry for your loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spadas Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Tchernobill said: I am sorry for your loss. 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridick Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Yeah fire kinda of kills you instantly, it's a bit silly really. I figured it out the hard way myself when I tried tried to put out a fire using a cooking pan full of water and as my character auto-pathed towards the fire she stepped in the flame and instantly conflagrated in like 2 seconds. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieHunter Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Ya fire really needs to be toned down, people know how to pat out a fire. They aren't going to stand there watching fire engulf them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vek Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I agree. The fire of the campfire can burn and even strongly, but a person does not burn and does not get charred in it for 2-3 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo_za Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 In real life I like to burn bonfires, but in the game I try not to light them. It's too life-threatening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoogieMan Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 It is pretty silly that that game seems to be under the impression that humans are always walking around covered in gasoline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getstoopid Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Do not forget those without gasoline-soaked shirts drinking a full bottle of bleach by accident... these two are my personal favorites of silly mechanics O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laker Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Lighting a fire or being near one is like playing Russian Roulette.  I avoid them like the plague. Only remember surviving once - the First Aid points for healing the burns were pretty good though.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irken Empire Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Me: Listening to PZ players aguing on how unrealist it is to set yourself on fire when stainding on an open flame in flammable clothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridick Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 17 hours ago, Irken Empire said: Me: Listening to PZ players aguing on how unrealist it is to set yourself on fire when stainding on an open flame in flammable clothing.  The way it is almost always an irremediable instakill it's a downer though. Read up on self-immolation, in most of those cases the person will douse themselves in gasoline and burn for a couple of minutes until passerbys put out the fire and then they survive for many days until they die of infections (if the burns were extensive enough). In most cases, when people die right away in a fire the real cause of death is smoke inhalation rather than the flames themselves, unless it's some California-style megafire that burns at truly ridiculous temperatures and scales and just incinerates you instantly. A small accidental fire is very much a survivable event in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irken Empire Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Ridick said: Â The way it is almost always an irremediable instakill it's a downer though. Read up on self-immolation, in most of those cases the person will douse themselves in gasoline and burn for a couple of minutes until passerbys put out the fire and then they survive for many days until they die of infections (if the burns were extensive enough). In most cases, when people die right away in a fire the real cause of death is smoke inhalation rather than the flames themselves, unless it's some California-style megafire that burns at truly ridiculous temperatures and scales and just incinerates you instantly. A small accidental fire is very much a survivable event in the real world. Just take a bottle of water and right click on the flame, you'll get the "extinguish" option as you can see down below in this picture the same has been done, all fires in this 4x4 tile radius will be extiguished including fires on yourself. All it takes is just a bottle of water, carry 3 bottles when lighting a campfire or when preforming a controlled burn of zombie hordes but I wish we could roll on the ground and not just poof into flames to our enternal sleep if we don't have water on us, also naked characters shouldn't be flamable, you'd get burned on the body but not get engufled in flames naked, makes no sense. I get what people are talking about, but I'm more angry that they haven't added ladders which exist for more than 10.000 years and instead we have to make unreliable recently nerfed sheet ropes that can break any second (realisticlly speaking) tough 2-3 zombie can still destroy them,, it's just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getstoopid Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Yes you can extinguish the fire but first you have to be fast enough because you burn to crisp with ridiculous speed if you happen to be on fire because you lit a campfire?! This is just plain dumb - noone would light up themselves by lighting a campfire unless they had used some fire accelerator, but even then they'd never burst into flames and die in seconds because if that were so, burning at the stake wouldn't have been such a gruesome death. Â And sure ladders would be neat. I actually use a mod for this, looks stupid as hell as it uses the rope-climbing animation but at least it makes ladders useable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridick Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 12 hours ago, Irken Empire said: Just take a bottle of water and right click on the flame, you'll get the "extinguish" option as you can see down below in this picture the same has been done, all fires in this 4x4 tile radius will be extiguished including fires on yourself  That's exactly what I was doing in the example I mentioned above where I tried to extinguished a fire (that was burning over asphalt a hundred blocks away from the place I forgot to turn off the oven in) with a cooking pan full of water and when my character walked towards the fire she not only didn't manage to extinguish it, but instantly caught fire herself and died before I could even react in any way. I honestly don't think you understand or have experienced how ridiculous fire can be in this game sometimes, there are many other topics where people are saying the same thing and even the devs themselves agree with that and said that it's not as realistic as they would want it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irken Empire Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ridick said:  That's exactly what I was doing in the example I mentioned above where I tried to extinguished a fire (that was burning over asphalt a hundred blocks away from the place I forgot to turn off the oven in) with a cooking pan full of water and when my character walked towards the fire she not only didn't manage to extinguish it, but instantly caught fire herself and died before I could even react in any way. I honestly don't think you understand or have experienced how ridiculous fire can be in this game sometimes, there are many other topics where people are saying the same thing and even the devs themselves agree with that and said that it's not as realistic as they would want it to be. Happend once in six months later, it was b39 vehicles IWBUMS, I tried to burn off mega hordes with controlled flames, I accidentally walked over one of the flames from a dead zombie, it lit me on fire instantly and I died in around 10 real life seconds, I had a katana too, I know exactly what this is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridick Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Irken Empire said: Happend once in six months later, it was b39 vehicles IWBUMS, I tried to burn off mega hordes with controlled flames, I accidentally walked over one of the flames from a dead zombie, it lit me on fire instantly and I died in around 10 real life seconds, I had a katana too, I know exactly what this is all about. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laker Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Irken Empire said: it lit me on fire instantly and I died in around 10 real life seconds That's been my experience, seemed about 10 seconds. So, really it is enough time to douse oneself. Others report a lot quicker death so something might need looked at in the game.  It is the ease of catching oneself on fire that could be addressed. It sounds funny but if it was real-world, summer-time news would be nothing but reports of people dying by lighting campfires.  "43 people died locally today when they attempted to light a campfire. Another 18 burned to death when they walked near a campfire. 5 people died by simply looking at a campfire. We have further reports of another burn death when the person simply thought about lighting a fire." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilarium Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I use campfires all the time in game, never burned myself to death before. In my early days of PZing I'd get lit up but never died from it and lately I've not once got caught in it. Not sure how you guys are managing to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irken Empire Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 15 hours ago, Laker said: It is the ease of catching oneself on fire that could be addressed. It sounds funny but if it was real-world, summer-time news would be nothing but reports of people dying by lighting campfires. The fact that you can catch yourself on fire naked and burn all the way through until you're dead speaks for itself, though fire can burn brick walls in PZ soooooo who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irken Empire Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Tilarium said: I use campfires all the time in game, never burned myself to death before. In my early days of PZing I'd get lit up but never died from it and lately I've not once got caught in it. Not sure how you guys are managing to do it. Remember that most new and fresh players are fresh and new players to Project Zomboid so they could likely accidentally walk over a campfire not knowing the dire consequences of stepping on an amber for 0.000001 second. List time it happend to me was in b39 as I said but Imagine if it happend again accidentally on my 7yr old run, who's gonna feed my npc's both human and animal huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Knowledge issue, you just didn't know... How were you supposed to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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