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Let us move and place more stuff from the game's world


turkler

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Now, I understand that not everything should be craftable. You shouldn't be able to just build a microwave, you should have to find it and bring it to your base. That's a good concept, it's genuinely fun hauling things like chairs to my base because I know it'll pay-off in the form of, well, having a nicer base. I gain essentially nothing from bringing more than one chair or building a pretty big mansion for myself except the sentimental one, but that's what this game is about.

 

...Which is also why it baffles me that there are some arbitrary restrictions on what can be picked up or be built. I can pick up counters, sinks and even set up plumbing systems powered by rain water, but I can't pick up a door. I can build myself a three floor mansion, remove the floor boards from several houses and use them in my mansion, even build and plaster walls, but I can't pick up a garage door for a garage. I can build stairs, but I can't either move or build guardrails for those stairs . I don't understand how I can install and uninstall windows but not doors.

 

Can you let us move the things like garage doors (Which you shouldn't be able to build, fair enough, but at least let us move existing ones.) and let us both grab, place and build things like guardrails because you'd think ''Building guardrails'' would be the logical conclusion to ''Building a house with several floors.''

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11 hours ago, EnigmaGrey said:

The discrepancy is that “things existed before moveables aren’t moveables” and therefore rely on older coder.

 

I imagine it’ll be cleaned up at some point.

 

fair enough

while on the topic actually, I went around and did a bit of testing and it's really inconsistent

 

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for example, I thought these red tiles looked pretty so I went to pick a few for my garden, but couldn't. except the white tiles that are inside the building can be picked up just fine.

I mean, most of zomboid's current end-game is building and maintaining a base, so I'd love if we could pick these up as well. I'm sure that the game won't be any easier because the players can pick up red tiles from the floor.

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For reference, I originally tracked the unmoveable items in this thread: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24289-list-of-world-tiles-that-cant-be-picked-up/ and this for undisassemblable: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/29147-list-of-world-tiles-that-cant-be-disassembled/ but I recently moved all the items to the PZWiki, as it's more open to edit and visible than forums: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Tiles  – pay attention to the pick up and disassembly section – there are still a lot of undocumented tiles, most notably curtains, windows and floor tiles, I keep track of them in https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn – feel free to contribute missing content (It's updated for 41.50) in the meantime (you can reach me here or other wiki editors here, on wiki or on Discord's #pz_wiki for help, there's also https://pzwiki.net/wiki/PZwiki:Project_Seat_Yourself_Furniture project for this). @turkler

 

As far as I'm aware, adding doors to picked up is hard, but non-garage doors can already be disassembled and openable windows can be picked, so nothing impossible. :)

Garage doors could use some love too, as currently they are always closed due to bug on default settings and if closed can only be opened from inside, with a key or with debug commands.

 

In the meantime, maybe some odd job for Team Tanglewood to slowly fix some of these issues? We already got some fixes recently, so pwetty please TIS :D?

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9 hours ago, Faalagorn said:

For reference, I originally tracked the unmoveable items in this thread: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24289-list-of-world-tiles-that-cant-be-picked-up/ and this for undisassemblable: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/29147-list-of-world-tiles-that-cant-be-disassembled/ but I recently moved all the items to the PZWiki, as it's more open to edit and visible than forums: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Tiles  – pay attention to the pick up and disassembly section – there are still a lot of undocumented tiles, most notably curtains, windows and floor tiles, I keep track of them in https://pzwiki.net/wiki/User:Faalagorn – feel free to contribute missing content (It's updated for 41.50) in the meantime (you can reach me here or other wiki editors here, on wiki or on Discord's #pz_wiki for help, there's also https://pzwiki.net/wiki/PZwiki:Project_Seat_Yourself_Furniture project for this). @turkler

 

As far as I'm aware, adding doors to picked up is hard, but non-garage doors can already be disassembled and openable windows can be picked, so nothing impossible. :)

Garage doors could use some love too, as currently they are always closed due to bug on default settings and if closed can only be opened from inside, with a key or with debug commands.

 

In the meantime, maybe some odd job for Team Tanglewood to slowly fix some of these issues? We already got some fixes recently, so pwetty please TIS :D?

man, I really hope so. at this point I'm building my base over an existing building precisely because you can't move these doors and I want a garage door for my base.

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49 minutes ago, turkler said:

man, I really hope so. at this point I'm building my base over an existing building precisely because you can't move these doors and I want a garage door for my base.

I got myself to add more missing items to the wiki, hopefully it'll be a good starting point on getting the missing tiles pickable, I'm happy we got some of the forgotten ones (couches) recently though!

 

There's also two bugs related to picking up items I'd love to see nailed down eventually: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24287-signs-stay-on-broken-window/ and https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24251-list-of-items-that-should-be-picked-as-whole-not-tile-by-tile/ (though for latter, it;s more complicated, as there are shelves and benches that can't be picked up with certain configurations (I marked them off on wiki).

 

EDIT: Forgot about this one as well: https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/30565-signs-that-are-hanging-over-windows-cant-be-put-on-the-same-spot-anymore/&tab=comments#comment-297461

 

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I wish you could pick up railway tracks, It would be cool to make your own railway somewhere.

 

They're big but it isn't the first big thing you can pick up.

 

Also most new objects in Louisville cannot be picked up like the military crates, fountains and such.

Here's hoping for more pickable objects...And yes, doors would be nice!

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