Flipping Zombies

[Tatum]

Occasionally a zombie in the falling animation (from being struck or pushed) will 'flip', interrupting the initial fall animation with a new one, usually in a completely different direction. Seems to happen when you walk into a zombie to stomp on it's head before it's actually finished the falling animation. Often causes you to miss your stomp.

[Faalagorn]

This is a known issue plaguing the game for a while and I think it's still somewhere high on the TODO list of hard to fix stuff for the developers :P. There's been some mitigation for it already, too I think, so it at least happens less frequently that it used to.

[Sedgwick]

Coming back to this bug report after I had another encounter with a flipping zombie today on a stream, so I was able to get a good video clip of it happening. I'm sure we've all seen it enough to know what it is, but for anyone who may not know what's happening here's a link to see a zombie flipping right as I go in for the kill (but mostly mangle them with an axe because I'm tired and depressed).

 

https://i.imgur.com/GaJihrv.mp4

Edited May 16, 2021 by Sedgwick

[Sedgwick]

41.56 made mention of a few instances of zombie flipping being fixed, but it did mention zombies that were facing down already. This type is still the most common for me:

 

Hitting a zombie with an attack that knocks them down. Walking on top of the zombie that I just knocked down then going to swing down at them. They flip over and dodge the attack.

 

In fact since I was recording today I was able to count and had, over the course of 3 in game days, 6 zombie flips. Unless it helps I won't add all the ones I recorded today, but here are a couple more videos with the knockdowns happening at some different angles since my last video of this was from 41.50.

 

https://i.imgur.com/J2G3SpD.mp4

 

https://i.imgur.com/rRRvKnQ.mp4

[Kurt]

I have had this problem only once with new version how ever i was not on top meaning i didn't have to move for a head smash.. it like they fall backwards and then stumble forwards. as the hit the ground... yet. I watched your vids crazy.  a slight improvement.

I didnt want to take eyes of this thread and just wanted to tell the mods all the issues i had have been resolved since the updates. 

[Pandorea]

On 10/30/2021 at 11:03 PM, Sedgwick said:

41.56 made mention of a few instances of zombie flipping being fixed, but it did mention zombies that were facing down already. This type is still the most common for me:

 

Hitting a zombie with an attack that knocks them down. Walking on top of the zombie that I just knocked down then going to swing down at them. They flip over and dodge the attack.

 

In fact since I was recording today I was able to count and had, over the course of 3 in game days, 6 zombie flips. Unless it helps I won't add all the ones I recorded today, but here are a couple more videos with the knockdowns happening at some different angles since my last video of this was from 41.50.

 

https://i.imgur.com/J2G3SpD.mp4

 

https://i.imgur.com/rRRvKnQ.mp4

 

Tried it your way (as shown in videos) - can't reproduce at all  My zombies simply accept their fate.... How often does this happen? If it's not every zed that falls down it'll be more difficult to reproduce obv. What are your char's traits? 

[Sedgwick]

Pretty much every time I play I'll have at least one zombie do this. That day that I posted those videos was more than usual. It happens infrequently enough that I never expect it, which is why so many of my videos of this happening are me missing as I go for the head attack. I've been using short blunt weapons with this character but in the characters I played in between 41.51-41.55 I was often using long blunt weapons and I would see it often with those too. Not sure if it's weapon specific though, as I remember back in 41.50 I would see it with machetes too and that first 41.50 video I posted was a hand axe.

 

This is with no mods.

 

The character from these 41.56 videos is: Occupation: Repairman. Current Negative Traits: Slow Healer, Claustrophobic, Conspicuous, Pacifist, Weak Stomach, Clumsy, Cowardly, Slow Reader. Current Positive Traits: Cat's Eyes, Dextrous, Outdoorsman, Angler, Lucky, Runner, Gymnast, Fast Learner, Keen Hearing, Organized, Fit, Stout. Traits I started with and got rid of: Feeble, Overweight, Out of Shape.

 

I'll go ahead and post the rest of the videos from that session just as other examples and so I can show how much time passed between each one.

 

11:00 AM 7/21: https://i.imgur.com/BOI12qA.mp4

7:20 AM 7/22: https://i.imgur.com/J2G3SpD.mp4

8:50 AM 7/23: https://i.imgur.com/rRRvKnQ.mp4

9:30 AM 7/23: https://i.imgur.com/FJ7A2hX.mp4

2:30 PM 7/23: https://i.imgur.com/2ns56pu.mp4

10:00 AM 7/24: https://i.imgur.com/ahiCbb6.mp4

 

Edited November 1, 2021 by Sedgwick

[Sedgwick]

Adding in that I know it's not isolated to my install instance. Was watching another player on Twitch and they had it happen too, I clipped it here: https://clips.twitch.tv/UnsightlyAbstemiousKimchiPunchTrees-bridmj1qQl3cdFH9

[TedHead]

This happens very often to me too.

I notice it a lot on zombies that were previously sitting against a wall.