Raymond76 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) Issue with zombies disappearing. On dedicated server (Spawn point inside mall) I am noticing whenever someone logs in or dies and respawns - all zombies inside the mall disappear. No mods. I also notice zombies not being save in Open Hours challenge which also takes place in mall. EDIT: Through some more testing on the dedicated - I noticed that the inside zombies despawn if a user is logging inside of the mall. If the user is logging outside the mall the inside zombies seem to be unaffected. The outside zombies don't seem to care either way. Is it possible their is some sort of spawn / log-in protection that clears a room (aka whole mall) of zombies when you spawn in? Is this mall specific issue? ------------------------------------------------------------ Dedicated MP Example: ------------------------------------------------------------ Computer 1: Linux Dedicated Server Computer 2: Win10 Client (Admin) Computer 3: Wind10 Client Steps to Reproduce: 1: /grantadmin "YOU" 2: /teleportto 13945, 5822, 0 3: Have another person log in 4: /teleport "Them" "You" 5: Have them log off 6: /createhorde 300 7: Have them log back on ------------------------------------------------------------ SP Open Hours (Me saving and continue): (PT 1 & PT 2) ------------------------------------------------------------ Computer 1: Wind10 SP Reproduce Steps: 1: Create open hours game 2: Let zombies in 3: Quit to main menu 4: Continue game** ** I have noticed that a few times the zombies don't disappear but it seems more often then not ------------------------------------------------------------ Enlarged Screens: ------------------------------------------------------------ Edited April 11, 2019 by Raymond76 Added Steps to Reproduce Pandorea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickodemos Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 This might explain something that happened to me as well. I thought I had a game paused and when I came back to play the game was no longer open. Now I am not sure if it crashed or I closed it while working but when I started over I was in the last place I was at before but had a time warp. No longer late afternoon but night. All things I left on the ground was reset. Weirdest thing was no zombies. Went back to the safe house and slept. When I woke up I was able to clear out a bunch of houses with no interference from zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoahe Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 When new user logs in his game requests a huge piece of map from server. It creates a huge load on server. When already logged in users request update from server while server is under load - update takes a bit more time than usual and entities like zombies and players will disappear until requested map will be downloaded and changes recalculated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickodemos Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I was playing solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond76 Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) Enoahe, this is not the issue. This happens on BOTH SP and MP. On my dedicated server I can spawn a horde of 300 and while I am still standing there I have my friend join the game and the zombies on MY game disappear before my vary eyes. Same with loading into a new SP I can see the zombies disappear even on first game creation. It would be useful if someone could follow the steps from my first post (literally just make a challenge game) or this one for MP and verify. I have had 3 verifications in my own circles. My dedicated is also powerful so I don't see any of these desyncs happening especially when these tests are happening with few people Edited April 11, 2019 by Raymond76 Acidentally words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond76 Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) I updated with some gifs of what I am seeing and some new notes: Through some more testing on the dedicated - I noticed that the inside zombies despawn if a user is logging inside of the mall. If the user is logging outside the mall the inside zombies seem to be unaffected. The outside zombies don't seem to care either way. Either way everytime someone logs into the mall it becomes a zombie ghost town and those zombies never appear back. Is it possible their is some sort of spawn protection that clears a house (aka whole mall) of zombies when you spawn in? Is this mall specific issue? Weird. Edited April 11, 2019 by Raymond76 More info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadHorse Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) I was able to replicate this. Seems to be an issue with your dedicated server spawn point being set inside the mall. If you move it outside the mall the zombies no longer despawn inside... Perhaps it is coded so that when players log into buildings that have spawn points in them (or in this case an servertest.ini spawnpoint) they are cleared for spawn protection. So in your case the whole mall gets cleared anytime new players come, or old players who logged out inside the mall log back in or someone dies. Edited April 12, 2019 by BadHorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, BadHorse said: I was able to replicate this. Seems to be an issue with your dedicated server spawn point being set inside the mall. If you move it outside the mall the zombies no longer despawn inside... Perhaps it is coded so that when players log into buildings that have spawn points in them (or in this case an servertest.ini spawnpoint) they are cleared for spawn protection. So in your case the whole mall gets cleared anytime new players come, or old players who logged out inside the mall log back in or someone dies. This is the intent, yes. It should only be the immediate area around the (about the size of the screen) from what I remember when it was implemented for multiplayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadHorse Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) Interesting. Are there any settings to tweak this behavior or some way to mitigate? I noticed if you move it to the north mall entrance it looks like the entire mall is still being cleared out. I wonder if moving the spawn point to a specific enclosed room instead of the mall main hall would have any effect (can't test at the moment). I can see an interesting multiplayer experience (kind of like opening hours challenge) having spawn points at different stores of the mall but this behavior would see the mall never have any zombies. Edited April 12, 2019 by BadHorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethesius Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Something very similar is happening to everyone on a multiplayer server. I've even tested this out on another random server to make sure it's not just something on the server I play on. While fighting zombies, they will often just pop out of existence. You can move around like normal but if you stay in one place, you will be attacked as though they were always there. The don't actually pop out but become invisible for a short time (5 seconds) and then reappear as though they were always there, moving towards you or attacking if you're standing still. This happens VERY often. One minute you can be swinging at a zombie then nothing there. If you keep swinging, they just pop back in and land a hit on you because you're swinging at air. Not sure how they get the bite on you then. The only way to get out of this is to literally run away until they reappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomZombie Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Any news on this issue? I'm not sure if it's the same thing, but I've noticed that in single player mode I can leave a game while being chased by a bunch of zombies and then reload to find them gone and a big chunk of the map clear. Pretty frustrating. I'm playing version 40.43 on ubuntu 18.04. Happy to send logs etc if that would help figure this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faalagorn Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 3:31 AM, randomZombie said: Any news on this issue? I'm not sure if it's the same thing, but I've noticed that in single player mode I can leave a game while being chased by a bunch of zombies and then reload to find them gone and a big chunk of the map clear. Pretty frustrating. I'm playing version 40.43 on ubuntu 18.04. Happy to send logs etc if that would help figure this out. I think the main focus is build 41 now, you can retest it for single player (and split screen) in IWBUMS branch, but for multiplayer you have to wait until it's live… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomZombie Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I guess I was expecting that these sorts of things would be fixed in the 'stable' build. Still that's fair enough, this is early access after all and I suppose there's only so much developer time. If/when I move over to to build 41 I'll try to do some checks to see if this still happens. I don't think I'd be the only one who would think this is a fairly major bug. Faalagorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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