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So you got norwegian actors speaking english for making norwegian crime movies. That sounds really awesome.

 

I think I should confess I'm danish. Maybe I gave that away when I spelled "elementary" in OP wrong :P

 

No no no, sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm saying there are a few Norwegian crime movies or TV shows, which are made in Norway and they speak Norwegian in it. But we have many more foreign movies on TV, that's obviously because the film industry is bigger elsewhere. Mostly they will be in English, and most of them are from USA. Who knows, they could be made in the UK with American actors, or British actors trained to speak in an American accent.

 

And you're Danish, hei på deg, fellow Scandinavian and overseas neighbor. Our languages (and Swedish) are supposed to be mutually intelligible and they are, in written form, but when spoken, helvete, it's hard to understand with your wet consonants or whatever you call it. We Norwegians usually joke about it and say Danish language sounds like Norwegian but spoken a potato in your throat. Have you ever seen this video?

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No no no, sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm saying there are a few Norwegian crime movies or TV shows, which are made in Norway and they speak Norwegian in it. But we have many more foreign movies on TV, that's obviously because the film industry is bigger elsewhere. Mostly they will be in English, and most of them are from USA. Who knows, they could be made in the UK with American actors, or British actors trained to speak in an American accent.

Oh okay, and if it's like here, whenever a "local" crime movie or series comes on it's hyped beyond reason

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Funny that you can behead zombie women,  but not kids.    

 

In the original 2d fallout titles you could kill kids and get the "child killer" perk / reputation.   They werent even zombies. 

I thought that was a feature they had in testing but got removed when the players they screened the game too reacted horribly to it.

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In any case, it's going to be a 'no' for the same reason all similar "shock factor" features are a no: that's just not the kind of game the developers want. Sex, child killing, rape, etc. are all always going to be no's.

 

Edit: Oh, and there are 5 elementary schools within 15 miles of Muldraugh so it's weird your friend had an hour's ride. He must have been the farthest back kid on the routes. *cough*

 

But it doesn't necessarily have to be an elementary school. Middle and High school are still "kids." I'm not sure if it's labelled in the game as an elementary school, but even if it is that doesn't detract from the game in any way. We're not trying for photorealism of Muldraugh.

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really ? decided to check it out. Found a building by googling "37.936779,-85.992653". Maybe your friend knows what it is?

There's a sign on the west side of the building, but it's too blurry

I stand corrected :/ and i am now ashamed, I called my friend and indeed they do have a very small elementary school. shame on me...... 

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Thats plain silly

Graphics has very little to do with things like this

Depicting violence against children in ANY form is obviously always considered bad. Also, bludegeoning kid zombies is not graphic enough for you, mate?

GTA gets more attention because of a variety of factors. Bigger fanbase, better publicity, etc.

Agreed, for me it's all about story line and game immersion. 

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Yeah, you're right, Americans can get offended easily. Nice observation, but we only have a few crime movies in our own Norwegian language. Most of them are foreign, english-speaking movies. And not people with British accents, you know?

You mean because you're actually controlling the actions and such?

 

I'm offended by that statement. :P

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Frankly, I'd like to see it, but as a mod for the whole "bad publicity" reason. I don't think it's OK to kill children, but you know what? I'm a nutjob, and I still find it fun in Fallout 1-2. I'd love nothing more than to raid an NPC outpost, kill everyone, corner a child who's wailing and screaming for mercy, then pop them in the head and steal their lollipops and soda.

 

And before you tell me I'm a sick person, no, I would NEVER do this in real life. Only in games. So I'm not mentally ill, just a rather dark-minded person. It IS the apocalypse, and in the end of the world, ANYTHING goes. I abandon morality for the sake of prolonging my mortality. 

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I'm all for having kids in a game like this,  both zombie and non-zombie version.

 

Why?

 

2 simple reasons:

 

1 - I am all for realism of as many levels as possible for these kind of games.

 

2 - I am not a moral hypocrite (or a psycho who likes to kill kids for that matter) - in fact I rather despise such people - and if you really think about this whole "killable kids" debate, there is more hypocrisy dripping on this topic than an apple drowned in honey.

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Unlike popular belief not every publicity is good publicity.

PZ might gain additional attention but at the cost of being shunned by many, many people.

Don't know about you, but I personally, will not be able to play the game ,if, kids were implemented.

You can expect it in mods only

Basically this.

Mods only. There would be publicity, but only bad publicity if otherwise.

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I'm all for having kids in a game like this,  both zombie and non-zombie version.

 

Why?

 

2 simple reasons:

 

1 - I am all for realism of as many levels as possible for these kind of games.

 

2 - I am not a moral hypocrite (or a psycho who likes to kill kids for that matter) - in fact I rather despise such people - and if you really think about this whole "killable kids" debate, there is more hypocrisy dripping on this topic than an apple drowned in honey.

It doesn't really matter if you're not or I'm not a moral hypocrite. Has nothing to do with that because we get it. Its a zombie apocalypse shit is going to get real. That's why we bought the game.

 

For everyone else who hasn't bought it, or aren't really into the zombie apocalypse thing (or don't understand it), they will see this as a negative. Which will end up with the game suffering as a whole and won't really be successful once out of beta. That's why it will be a no go for that.

So its going to be mods only for that, which is fine.

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violence against kids in video-games is a reason to put a game on the index with a sale stop (rightly). it doesn't matter what typ of child they are (even animals or fantasy charakters).

 

put them in for realism? yes, maybe - but i think there are more interesting things you can add which let you forget that there are no children :)

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I'm sure some one will make a mod for it, but Indie Stone done said no to the kid thing. I think it was somewhere on the fourms (which I guess is now gone?)

However, I do think it would be interesting to see how players react differently to finding a kid alone in a house than say a adult. Where some players would have killed the adult they may spare the kid or even take them along to try and protect the kid. I think many of you are forgetting that the addition of kids wouldn't just mean zombie kids, it would also mean harder and more emotion driven choices. You would have to make the choice of killing someone when you're surrounded by a horde of zombies or waiting to see if some group will come by and rescue you from them. In that situation you must make that choice, and it may be easier to make with a group of adults rather than a child.

However, I do strongly agree that there should not be kids in the vanilla game. It's too big of a risk for them to take, it could potentially destroy their reputation and prevent countless people even looking at the game let alone buying it.

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I could agree that it might bring some interesting choices and might be realistic. But that's not enough reason. Just like rape, sex, and recreational drugs the drawbacks outweigh the benefits so it will almost certainly not happen.

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I'm sure some one will make a mod for it, but Indie Stone done said no to the kid thing. I think it was somewhere on the fourms (which I guess is now gone?)

However, I do think it would be interesting to see how players react differently to finding a kid alone in a house than say a adult. Where some players would have killed the adult they may spare the kid or even take them along to try and protect the kid. I think many of you are forgetting that the addition of kids wouldn't just mean zombie kids, it would also mean harder and more emotion driven choices. You would have to make the choice of killing someone when you're surrounded by a horde of zombies or waiting to see if some group will come by and rescue you from them. In that situation you must make that choice, and it may be easier to make with a group of adults rather than a child.

However, I do strongly agree that there should not be kids in the vanilla game. It's too big of a risk for them to take, it could potentially destroy their reputation and prevent countless people even looking at the game let alone buying it.

It was posted in a faq on the old site.

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I thought that was a feature they had in testing but got removed when the players they screened the game too reacted horribly to it.

 

 I had the perk at some point.    The early fallout titles were very gritty.    You could also get a "pornstar" perk,   abuse drugs, etc.

 

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Childkiller

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Porn_Star

 

But gaming gets more scrutiny than it used to.

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I find the aversion to child-zombies kinda odd, considering in the very first scene of the first episode of The Walking Dead the Main Character shoots a little girl zombie (holding a teddy bear, no less) right through the head.

Hell, here's a screenshot: http://puu.sh/3PMYr.jpg

 

And that's one of the highest-rated and most viewed current TV series in the United States.

 

Honestly, the most entertaining aspect of a Zombie apocalypse isn't the zombies themselves, it's the tough decisions that have to be made to survive. It's the complex moral dynamics that sell a series, not gory zombie-killing.

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That may be true sims but TV and video game ratings are very different and can have a vastly different impact on the viewer/users. Like I said, it's not about not wanting it per say so much as it's about just not wanting the negativity associated with them game.

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I could agree that it might bring some interesting choices and might be realistic. But that's not enough reason. Just like rape, sex, and recreational drugs the drawbacks outweigh the benefits so it will almost certainly not happen.

I'm not trying to suggest it to be in the main game, i'm just pointing out the perks of having child zombies. People often forget that just because something is bad that doesn't mean it can't be a good thing too. I agree that putting it in the vanilla game would cause much more draw backs than things you would gain. 

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