agreubill Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) [DISCLAIMER] I didn't play with Hydrocraft (far way too many things in it for my taste), so some ideas may be alrdy existing in this mod.[/DISCLAIMER] Some suggestions to help this skill to get more lüv. Frankly, i'm not sure that any of these suggestions isn't more of bug report or highlighting some broken/unfinished business. If that's the case, fixes could sincerely be welcomed and appreciated 1) Experience on ALL recipes tied to Electricity (at least in the craft menu) So far, only dismantle (mainly radio, talkie, TV and some others) and making radio/talkie give exp. Noise maker don't ; Remote (trigger and controler) don't ; Timer don't ; creating a handmade battery support for lamp don't. It's pretty disappointing and sad... Patch 40+ => Many electicals things could now be dismantle now and really help your skill up. Not sure on the creation side, but it's now far more decent 2) Slighty up the loot ratio of TV remote & Home Alarm TV Remote are really too rare*. Unfortunatelly, this is a key component for a part of recipes (all the remote controlers). Patch 39.67.5 => Increased the spawn rate of remote control. (Ty Devs) ; still need to play on that patch to see the difference. Home alarm (the item, not the noise event) can't be found anywere. I'm still not sure if it's implemented/actually in game or not (never found one...), but it could be really good to make them more noticeable in houses where they're supposed to be (said : houses with alarm). Unfortunately, this is a key component for motion sensors (which you still can find time to time...). 3a) Directly get battery from dismantled Radio/Talkie. So far, we had to put them in the world, click them and manually remove the battery OR equip them in main hand and manually remove the battery... It's tedious. And basically, that also say the battery just disappeared when you dismantle the damn object. Solved since 38.26 IWBUMS. (Ty devs) 3b) Give us a "remove battery" for radio/talkie in inventory Basicaly, same stuff and line of command as we actually have for flashlight. Right click on radio/talkie, to get the command line "remove battery 1 / All". Solved since 38.26 IWBUMS. (Ty devs) 4) Electrician profession Mention in the occupation description (at character creation), it also give you most of the electrical recipes. 5) Additionnal item Add item "Wiring tools" in the game 6) Alternative connection to house powergrid Allow us to connect a moved lampost/lamp to a house powergrid Recipe => Need Wiring tools & Screwdriver [Equiped in main and secondary hands] + electric_wire (2 units) / Aluminium (2 units) / Electronic Scrap (1 unit) / Adhesive tape OR Glue (1 unit) Electricity Lvl Required 5 (to be in range with the Elec lvl required for batconnector). New connected lamps will be lighted if/when the house is powered (before electricity shutdown and in a house powered by a generator). It's an alternate method (for BatteryConnector thing) to bring light to your safehouse. But you can't light it off (but see point 8 below). 7) New Take/Place/Rotate option Allows us to Take Switch (using screwdriver) in houses and get "Switch" item (Base.Switch) from it. Electricy lvl 1-2 (?) maybe required. 8) Additionnal recipe Allows us to connect "Switch" to a (eventually moved) lamp-post. Recipe => Need Wiring tools + Screwdriver [Equiped in main and secondary hands] + Electric_wire (1 unit) + Aluminium (1 unit) + Electric_Scrap (1 unit) / Adhesive tape OR Glue (1 unit) Electricity Lvl Required 4 This will basically allows the Context_Command Light on/off for the said lamppost. 10) Add little Electricity XP when you repair a generator (suggested by JayM) 11) Fix the Screwdriver priority Small QoL modification ; Build 39.XX => Game still take a new Screwdriver (if one is available) in your backpack when you disassemble/assemble something tied to Elec. 12a) Ability to reload Battery (not car's one) 12b) Ability to craft a hand-made battery reloader (i'm not Electrician myself, so it's maybe not really possible to do that). Elec. lvl required ofc. 13) Option to Attach a noise-maker (using Duct Tape) to other launched bombs (Pire, Incendiary, etc.) ; i undrstd this feel very L4D, but why not ? 14) Recipe to craft a hand-made Car's Battery reloader (still not Electrician myself, so it's maybe not really possible to do that). Elec. lvl required ofc. 15) Up the loot ratio of Watches For a game set in 1993, the loot ratio of watches is really toooo low. 16) Ability to attach A remote Trigger (using duct-tape, as usual) to a lamp/lamp post/Lamp on pillar to be able to light it on/off from range (the said lamp must be connected to some source of power [ie : power grid (usual or generator's one) or some connected Battery) with the usual adequate remote controler (V1 to V3). 17a) Ability/Recipe to make a Timer V2 (using watches or cloak) and "program" it to be active from Time A to Time B (in Hour/Min). Elec lvl required ofc. 17b) Ability to attach said Timer V2 (using duct-tape, as usual) to a lamp/lamp post/Lamp on pillar. Said Lamp will be lighted from Time A to Time B (as long as it have access to power). 17c) Same could occur with Fridge. => Good way to manage your power (limited) supply. Edited December 26, 2020 by agreubill Added 3b on suggestion of 1demon1 / 3a & 3b corrected in 38.26 / Revamp open thread JayM, grammarsalad, TrailerParkThor and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1demon1 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 7 часов назад, сказал agreubill: 3) непосредственно батареи из демонтированных Радио/рации. До сих пор, мы должны были разместить их в мире, выделите их и вручную извлеките аккумулятор и помещать их в основной руке и вручную удалить батарею... это утомительно. И в принципе, что еще сказать батареи просто исчез, когда вы разобрать этот чертов объект. сейчас это действительно проблема, вы можете добавить в рецепт, чтобы вытащить аккумулятор из радио с фонариком Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1demon1 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 7 hours ago, agreubill said: Directly get battery from dismantled Radio/Talkie. So far, we had to put them in the world, click them and manually remove the battery OR equip them in main hand and manually remove the battery... It's tedious. And basically, that also say the battery just disappeared when you dismantle the damn object. now this is really a problem, you can add the recipe to pull out the battery from the radio as is done with a flashlight agreubill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DramaSetter Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, 1demon1 said: сейчас это действительно проблема, вы можете добавить в рецепт, чтобы вытащить аккумулятор из радио с фонариком Nice google translate bro, i understand nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1demon1 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Just now, DramaSetter said: Nice google translate bro, i understand nothing Ahahah lol i make my post with auto translate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DramaSetter Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 50 minutes ago, 1demon1 said: Ahahah lol i make my post with auto translate Next time just write on english. Even if it's spelled wrong it's understandable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livio Persemprio Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Whenever i play i don't even bother using electrician, they love to add a lot of stuff and leave it half broken. Like when they added foraging for medical plants without fixing the bug that made you sleepy (now fixed), or when they added generators but made it on purpose that 6 month later players couldn't even try it becase you had to rush to the gas pumps before the shutoff or you'd be stuck with little to no gas in the whole world (not fixed yet, siphoning from cars will balance life, but as far as i'm aware it's not in the game yet). or meral working, struggle twice as much as carpentry to build anything, and still wooden stuff has more hp... but at least metal stuff attracts zombies with its noise whenever hit. that said, it might take years, but they always eventually fix stuff stewydeadmike, TrailerParkThor, 1demon1 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) I agree with most things you say Livio, but my intention wasn"t flaming, whinig or complaining endlessly. I only put suggestions (which don't need any addition to the game) to strenghten a skill which could use some "adjustments". Tad of things in PZ have been put there (Metal Working is the most recent and strong example) but left "unfinished" (my feelings) or lacking a little bit extra polishing. I hope "suggestions" section of this forum could help to highlight and "fix" them. --- 2 hours ago, Livio Persemprio said: or when they added generators but made it on purpose that 6 month later players couldn't even try it becase you had to rush to the gas pumps before the shutoff or you'd be stuck with little to no gas in the whole world Yep... That's why i run with the "pump power" mod most of the time. I still thk it's a really fine addition that need to go into the "true" game ; it gives a bonus after shutdown, but it also give you a purpose (that's the most missing part on the long term) ; find generator, bring one at gas station (sometimes hell of an expedition), then you have (more or less) to come back on regular basis for fuel. Edited August 26, 2017 by agreubill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livio Persemprio Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 But i wasn't neither flaming nor whining, i just stated my personal experience as feedback, if i had a problem with the game i wouldn't be posting criticism, i'd be deleting it and moving to something else. The pumps one for example can be a really neat experience in mp, once we had a crazy run to scavenge gas with a guy panicking to extract as much as he could while the others fended the zeds away, then we had to defend people slowed down by cans and the generator while we escaped. 10/10 would do again. I really hope the fix you suggested catches the attention they deserve, i never tried electrician for the reasons you stated above agreubill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Livio Persemprio said: But i wasn't neither flaming nor whining, Wasn't implying you do, sorry if i let you thk that. I was trying to clarify my own intention. 5 hours ago, Livio Persemprio said: The pumps one for example can be a really neat experience in mp, once we had a crazy run to scavenge gas with a guy panicking to extract as much as he could while the others fended the zeds away, then we had to defend people slowed down by cans and the generator while we escaped. 10/10 would do again. That's exactly my feelings : a purpose/goal (with a real bonus) implying an adventure/expedition. Something to do after the 1st weeks/months of struggle for surviving. It creates story to tell (as you do) and feed memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Livio Persemprio said: i never tried electrician for the reasons you stated above Neither do i. But i extensively play Engi and it's somehow tied to Electricity field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 25/08/2017 at 9:23 PM, 1demon1 said: now this is really a problem, you can add the recipe to pull out the battery from the radio as is done with a flashlight I add your suggestion to the open message. Thks to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) New bunch of suggestions/additions for Elec. 5) Add item "Wiring tools" in the game 6) Allow us to connect a moved lampost/lamp to a house powergrid using Wiring tools & Screwdriver [Equiped in main and secondary hands] and electric_wire (3 units). Electricy lvl 4 required. New connected lamps will be lighted if/when the house is powered (before electricity shutdown and in a house powered by a generator= 7) Allows us to dismantle Switch (using scredriver) in houses and get "Switch" item from it. Maybe Electricy lvl ? required. 8) Allows us to place Switch elsewhere on house's walls (using the take/place/rotate command). 9) Allows us to connect Switch to a moved lamp-post connected to a house power grid (using Wiring tools & Screwdriver [Equiped in main and secondary hands] and electric_wire (1 unit). Electricy lvl ? required. This will basically allows to light on/off the said moved lamppost with Conext command. Edited October 9, 2017 by agreubill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 On 25/08/2017 at 1:31 PM, agreubill said: 3a) Directly get battery from dismantled Radio/Talkie. So far, we had to put them in the world, click them and manually remove the battery OR equip them in main hand and manually remove the battery... It's tedious. And basically, that also say the battery just disappeared when you dismantle the damn object. 3b) Give us a "remove battery" for radio/talkie in inventory Basicaly, same stuff and line of command as we actually have for flashlight. Right click on radio/talkie, to get the command line "remove battery 1 / All". These points are solved since 38.26 IWBUMS. Ty devs Man_In_The_Purple_Hat and trombonaught 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrittenInBlood Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I've found home alarm exactly once. IMO it would be cool if home alarm was an object (spawning in alarmed houses and maybe possible to spot through the window) not just lootable item. trombonaught and Octopus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayM Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) I agree with all your suggestions OP! How about adding electricity xp every time a generator is repaired? Edited November 3, 2017 by JayM trombonaught 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 hours ago, JayM said: How about adding electricity xp every time a generator is repaired? That could works too, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) 11) Fix the Screwdriver priority Small QoL modifications ; 1) Still in 39.xx => Game still take a new Screwdriver (if one is available) in your backpack when you disassemble/assemble something tied to Elec 2) Put Screwdriver behind Butter Knive in priority order (game take Screwdriver only if no Butter Knive is available in Main Inventory. 12a) Ability to reload Battery (not car's one) 12b) Ability to craft a hand-made battery reloader (i'm not Electrician myself, so it's maybe not really possible to do that). Edited June 19, 2018 by agreubill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 13) Option to attach a noise-maker (using Duct Tape) to other launched bombs (Pire, Incendiary, etc.) ; i undrstd this feel very L4D, but why not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreubill Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 14) Recipe to craft a hand-made Car's Battery reloader (still not Electrician myself, so it's maybe not really possible to do that). Elec. lvl required ofc. 15) Up the loot ratio of Watches For a game set in 1993, the loot ratio of watches is really toooo low. 16) Ability to attach A remote Trigger (using duct-tape, as usual) to a lamp/lamp post/Lamp on pillar to be able to light it on/off from range (the said lamp must be connected to some source of power [ie : power grid (usual or generator's one) or some connected Battery) with the usual adequate remote controler (V1 to V3). 17a) Ability/Recipe to make a Timer V2 (using watches or cloak) and "program" it to be active from Time A to Time B (in Hour/Min). Elec lvl required ofc. 17b) Ability to attach said Timer V2 (using duct-tape, as usual) to a lamp/lamp post/Lamp on pillar. Said Lamp will be lighted from Time A to Time B (as long as it have access to power). 17c) Same could occur with Fridge. => Good way to manage your power (limited) supply. Edited June 19, 2018 by agreubill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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