Build 38 and Beyond: Small but Important Suggestions Thread

[CaptKaspar]

1164. Carpenters of a minimum level (TBD) should be able to disassemble player built walls. Currently a sledgehammer is needed to destroy them. 

[CaptKaspar]

1165. Sledgehammers should leave “unusable wood” after destroying wooden objects. 

[CaptKaspar]

1166. Make trap crates use a full carrot to bait. Right now they use most of a carrot and you get a small amount of carrot left over. Who wouldn't just put the whole carrot in the trap as bait?

[CaptKaspar]

1167. Melted ice cream refrozen is frozen melted ice cream. Wouldn't it just be ice cream again?

[CaptKaspar]

1168. Seatbelts

 

 

[CaptKaspar]

1169. To plumb a sink to a rain barrel we should need some piping. Maybe a metal-working skill? Or could use PVC.

 

Don't hate me for suggesting this, but shouldn't we need some sort of filter system to get clean water from the rain barrel to the sink? Maybe we could use some gravel, sand, and charcoal. 

[CaptKaspar]

1170. To the best of my knowledge no one in the US calls lights “lamps” other than maybe a light on an end table or a nightstand, but people here usually still call those “lights”. 

 

You won’t ever hear anyone say “Turn off the lamp”. It doesn’t happen. 
 

“Lamps” should be called “lights”. Light on a pole, wall light, etc. 

[CaptKaspar]

1171. When cooking you can pull ingredients from nearby containers. When repairing an item you can NOT pull repair mats from nearby containers. Make it so that we can. 

[CaptKaspar]

1172. Harvest rotten crops instead of having to destroy them. Harvested rotten crops can go in composters for both compost and worms. Those with higher levels of a cooking can still safely utilize rotted crops. Having to destroy rotten crops in the field is a waste. 

Edited January 31 by CaptKaspar

[jwrul]

1173. Weather forecasts on the radio are too precise. In game, temperature and wind speed are given to two decimal places (i.e. 76.13 degrees, 12.15 mph). In real life these are given at most to the nearest whole number (i.e. 76 degrees, 12 mph). Also, weather forecasts generally include daily high and low temperatures, but not average daily temperature.

[gusbighead]

1174. Clothing topic, based on realism and what we see in game:

 

Police hats, Chef hat and Golf cap should give insulation;

Ranger hat and Boonie hat give almost the same insulation of a Beanie hat (should be similar insu. of Cowboy hat);

Nuclear Biochemical Mask should have neck insulation/protection;

Medical Coat shouldn't have neck insulation/protection;

Padded Jacket and Hoddie does offer neck insulation/protection, but when hooded doesn't give anything (need to be fixed);

Army Coat shouldn't give insulation/protection at the neck, and should give thighs insulation/protection;

Poncho shoudn't give insulation/protection at the shins *and it gives insu./prot. at the head with the hood down (BUG)*, and should give insulation/protection when hooded (need to be fixed);

Suit Jacket shouldn't give neck insulation/protection;

Camo hunting, Foreman, Gray hunting, Green Camo hunting, High Visibility, and Orange Hunting Vests should give protection;

Wedding jacket shouldn't give neck insulation/protection, and should give a little at the thighs;

Diamond-pattern Sweater shouldn't give neck insulation/protection;

Polo Sweater should have neck insulation/protection;

Ghillie Suit Torso should have neck and thighs insulation/protection;

Hazmat Suit should have head, hands and feet insulation/protection;

Boxing gloves should have protection;

Long gloves should have forearms insulation/protection;

Long Shorts shouldn't have shin insulation/protection;

Military Camo Shorts should have protection and shouldn't have shin insulation;

Underwear should have some insulation;

Boots, Rain boots and Riding boots should have shin insulation/protection.

Edited May 29 by gusbighead

[Bullet_Magnate]

In addition to weight, each container and item should have a general size value (small, medium, large, etc), or maybe "longest dimension" numeric value, to minimize instances where items that are very light but very long / bulky can't be stuffed in containers obviously too small to hold them (e.g., a spear in a glove compartment).  

 

Right now I just generally try to avoid creating these situations, but it would be nice to have it built in to an extent. 

[CaptKaspar]

On 6/2/2022 at 2:04 PM, Bullet_Magnate said:

In addition to weight, each container and item should have a general size value (small, medium, large, etc), or maybe "longest dimension" numeric value, to minimize instances where items that are very light but very long / bulky can't be stuffed in containers obviously too small to hold them (e.g., a spear in a glove compartment).  

 

Right now I just generally try to avoid creating these situations, but it would be nice to have it built in to an extent. 

I think the “weight” value currently is more of an “encumbrance” value. Thats why things like plastic outdoor chairs that realistically weigh next to nothing have a higher value than for example an axe. They might be light but they’re awkward to carry around. 
 

I don’t love the current system, mostly because of scenarios you described above. A spear should never be able to fit in a glovebox. I should never be able to put a plastic chair or a log in my backpack. Things like that. The system isn’t perfect, but it’d probably be extra tedious to define every item by weight and volume and have different limits on every container type. Not saying it shouldn’t happen though. 
 

I do think its more realistic to run out of volume in a bag before you run out of weight. Unless you’re carrying bricks or tons of ammo, you’re not likely going to exceed the weight limits of most backpacks, but you would realistically run out of volume pretty quickly. 

[Faalagorn]

On 6/21/2022 at 1:05 AM, CaptKaspar said:

I think the “weight” value currently is more of an “encumbrance” value. Thats why things like plastic outdoor chairs that realistically weigh next to nothing have a higher value than for example an axe. They might be light but they’re awkward to carry around. 
 

I don’t love the current system, mostly because of scenarios you described above. A spear should never be able to fit in a glovebox. I should never be able to put a plastic chair or a log in my backpack. Things like that. The system isn’t perfect, but it’d probably be extra tedious to define every item by weight and volume and have different limits on every container type. Not saying it shouldn’t happen though. 
 

I do think its more realistic to run out of volume in a bag before you run out of weight. Unless you’re carrying bricks or tons of ammo, you’re not likely going to exceed the weight limits of most backpacks, but you would realistically run out of volume pretty quickly. 

CDDA have a very realistic and advanced system for weight/size/length, including pockets. Not saying Zomboid should as advanced (though I wouldn't mind it), but can be looked for inspiration for anyone wandering.

[bugme]

1175. Some very small/quick fixes to add a bit more real life accuracy (mostly weapons).