TheGrifter Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 We've been polite, but it's been four years. I like radios as much as the next person, but this game started with NPCs, as a proof of concept, and I preferred even those little set pieces over the lack of NPCs in the game now. Why don't you folks implement some form of crude NPCs like the old days instead of making us wait four years for a feature included in the demo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffe9911 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Read this http://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php/topic/14491-the-silver-lining-of-npc-delays-etc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teesee Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Dude, your message is exactly why they decided to stop mentioning NPCs. You could say players "deserve" updates on NPCs, but I disagree with this statement : we paid for the game and we "deserve" development. That's all. I know NPCs could bring a new dimension to the lore and playstyle, but come on, it's not like the game's hollow and only SP. And I really can't see how implementing poorly-designed NPCs while waiting for the "real" ones can be a good thing. People will complain becuse they're not as good as they thought, then they'll complain when TIS adds the finalised NPCs because people got used to the previous ones. So no, TIS, keep on doing what you're doing. We'll get NPCs and I trust you on this. Oh well, sorry for this NPCs talk. 3 months on the forum and I'm already fed up about that too. TheGrifter, I was going to give you the link, but Fluffe's been faster. Read it. You'll know why. EreWeGo, Albie, Nynuc and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrifter Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 That article doesn't justify it being in development limbo for 4 years. I could have had a toddler before I bought this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f3rret Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 edit: I removed the snarky parts of this post that were directed at TheGrifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headshotkill Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Patience is a virtue Just remember, the longer they work on it, the better it'll be in the end.I adopted this reasoning after the ''Rome 2: total war'' disaster, although it is creating a paradoxical situation where the longer NPCs are held back, the higher the expectations, the more work is needed to archieve these expectation, longer waiting makes expectation rise, ... I truly hope the devs can pull it off though, and trust them enough to believe they can do it. P.S.: Sorry in advance to the dev-team, but to make clear to the OP. Early alpha NPCs were shit, they were boring, unrealistic and uninteresting and would give people a wrong impression were they added now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Read this http://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php/topic/14491-the-silver-lining-of-npc-delays-etc/ And all of this: http://steamcommunity.com/app/108600/discussions/0/520518053449950851/ Followed up by http://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php/topic/16278-no-npc-mentions-policy/Btw, is this you? https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/3kw632/this_is_literally_the_best_sandbox_game_ive/If so, you'll see we've already had this conversation several times. If it isn't you, feel free to catch up on the replies.https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/3ipj54/when_npcs_are_added_are_they_going_to_have_animals/culedhrhttps://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/3kw5ly/monoid_rereanimated/cv87j3chttps://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/3hjnll/i_cant_shake_the_feeling_that_npcs_are_vaporware/https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/3icarq/idea_for_when_npcs_are_added/cuglxxy Blasted_Taco, uberevan, f3rret and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeg Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 We do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan_Turps Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 TIS provided us with more than we deserve.TIS deserve some some respect Aniketos, EreWeGo and MisterInSayne 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValueOfGravity Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 People should really stop overhyping and demanding updates on NPCs. The devs are doing the best they can developing NPCs, while bugtracking and working on other features in the game, and still manage to deliver updates at an alarming rate. As for the development time, blockbuster games like Team Fortress 2 (8 years in development), Aliens: Colonial Marines (12 years in development) and Duke Nukem Forever (14 years in development) managed to rise to the top of gaming, slugging along their massive development time. I think TIS is doing an amazing job on PZ, and I hope they keep going. EreWeGo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silents429 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 If only they had some sort of blog posts detailing their development status regarding the game..They could have it on Mondays, and call it the Mondoid™ nasKo, Mopo, Kuren and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teesee Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 As for the development time, blockbuster games like [...] Duke Nukem Forever (14 years in development) managed to rise to the top of gaming, slugging along their massive development time. You're not being helpful to TIS with that one xD Zorak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValueOfGravity Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 As for the development time, blockbuster games like [...] Duke Nukem Forever (14 years in development) managed to rise to the top of gaming, slugging along their massive development time. You're not being helpful to TIS with that one xD Well, DK:F got to be a *decent* game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasted_Taco Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 As for the development time, blockbuster games like [...] Duke Nukem Forever (14 years in development) managed to rise to the top of gaming, slugging along their massive development time. You're not being helpful to TIS with that one xD Well, DK:F got to be a *decent* game. I will fight you, fuck no DK:F never got to be in its full potential. DK:F was a clusterfuck of ideas of recent popular FPS and you can see that, it feels like a time machine when you play though the game because you can see different time references to FPS the longer you play the game and you can the stupid 2 weapons limits and health regen, i am still mad witu DK:F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValueOfGravity Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 As for the development time, blockbuster games like [...] Duke Nukem Forever (14 years in development) managed to rise to the top of gaming, slugging along their massive development time. You're not being helpful to TIS with that one xD Well, DK:F got to be a *decent* game. I will fight you, fuck no DK:F never got to be in its full potential. DK:F was a clusterfuck of ideas of recent popular FPS and you can see that, it feels like a time machine when you play though the game because you can see different time references to FPS the longer you play the game and you can the stupid 2 weapons limits and health regen, i am still mad witu DK:F I'm guessing it just didn't live up to the hype. If the project wasn't sold out, I'm sure it would have been a success. Last offtopic reply, I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirrus Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 We're watching this thread very very closely guys, obviously. Please keep it lovely, I don't want to have to start using the banhammer. Necromatic_Corgi, Atoxwarrior, mieksta and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasted_Taco Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 We're watching this thread very very closely guys, obviously. Please keep it lovely, I don't want to have to start using the banhammer. Cant be lovely with DK:F though, i waited man, i waited so much ;_; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atoxwarrior Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 powerful banhammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeliberto Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Power banhammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethanwdp Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 We're watching this thread very very closely guys, obviously. Please keep it lovely, I don't want to have to start using the banhammer.*grabs popcorn* uberevan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albie Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Deserve. I hate that word. With early access, you're kind of taking a gamble the game will be developed. Think yourself lucky we get a regular mondoid, or that the devs and support respond so politely and haven't just up and left with the money. (double fine I'm looking at you...)The amount of times people have said NO ETAs, can people not read or do they think they asking that one more time will make the devs cave and speak about it.Sorry if this post came across as aggressive, it's not intended to offend, just struggling to find a different way to put it across :s EreWeGo, Aniketos, EnigmaGrey and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 This thread was much less exciting than anticipated. No. That's not a challenge. CaptKaspar, sardaukar11, f3rret and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teesee Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 This thread was much less exciting than anticipated.No. That's not a challenge.I'd bet on Kirrus being even more disappointed. He was watching this thread so carefully! CaptKaspar and BLATANTLY_POTATO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberevan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I didn't even finish reading the title before I internally sighed... CaptKaspar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModdedTibby Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We all have been waiting, patiently and so should you. I fully support the idea behind holding back a certain part of the game when if released is just going to cause more bitching than your thread, because its not done fully and correctly. Just wait till the final product comes out for NPC's and you will be fine. Albie, uberevan and CaptKaspar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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