J0hnm13 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Would you consider trashing the stairs on an existing building the same as simply building a floating fortress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fisher Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Well, smashing out the stairs is something you could do in real life, while a floating fortress is not, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayman Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 No i wouldnt. I never make bases in existing buildings, and sky fortresses are stupid. Navarome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethanwdp Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleblueboxes Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Pretty much what I've done. My base is held up in the logging company at the far south-west of the map. Inside has roof access and an isolated stairwell. I'm considering trashing the stairs and just using ropes to get to and from the roof (to both interior and exterior). Already got my farm flourishing and about 10 water catcher barrels going. All I need is to stockpile even more canned foods for the coming winter (have enough right not to get through the first). And since I live outside 90% of the time I never seem to get boredom  I get the feeling this is similar to how sky fortresses work but I've never actually seen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Fisher Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I don't think anyone else read the question- the post asks if you think it's the same, as in both are cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan_Turps Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 If it's a structure held up by only sheet ropes then i consider it cheating.If it's a supported structure that has no stairs then it is kind of acceptable I guess? I personally like stairs lucy the axe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Tape Warrior Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I think levitating things are silly. I do not see how removing stairs could be cheating though. What are you cheating? Are you cheating the zombies? Are you cheating Allah? Are you cheating yourself? If an enemy army has to cross a bridge and you burn it, then fine. If there are ladders against your castle walls and you destroy them then great. If zombies want to climb up from the underworld into your heavenly garden above but you take the stairs apart then great. lucy the axe, ZombieGrinder, Johnny Fisher and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayman Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I don't think anyone else read the question- the post asks if you think it's the same, as in both are cheating. Ah now i see. No fortresses are way worse, since they make no sense. Johnny Fisher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bower Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Some people consider it cheating, I think it is really creative. Like some production buildings have a second floor but it isn't in use. Stair up to that and make your sky base inside the roof of an already established building and keep a tight sheep rope regiment / rules and whallah, a base that is fairly safe in multiplayer.Sky bases are cool but you can see them from a mile away, can only keep your stuff so safe but these days I don't think a skybase is that safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudeman325 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I wouldn't consider it cheating, but I do think it detracts from my personal entertainment to make an area that is 100 zombie inaccessible, so I don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasted_Taco Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Both are cheating, i hate that we can do it, hope someday devs will adress this exploit. If there were like supports and we actually needed to deal with stability of the house, then sure, but right now it feels cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bower Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I smash out the stairs to keep random naked people out of my base not to avoid zombies, you can just have a door to deal with them. A naked guy who found an axe? Less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footmuffin Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geras Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I find both of those ideas cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose65 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Demolishing stairs is a legit strategy, and can still lead to your death if you don't have proper exits when a horde comes knocking. Honestly, I'm hoping NPCs will somewhat be the solution to that. If not, then their really gonna have to make hordes migrate a lot more than they do now, as well as removing sky bridges and such. Navarome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarome Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 making a sky base is a cheap tactic, while destroying stairs is something realistic Johnny Fisher, _Gold_, ZombieGrinder and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleblueboxes Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Smashing stairs seems perfectly fair since you can do that IRL. It does mean the game has to be creative with dangers though- maybe NPCs with the ability to climb sheet ropes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bower Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 It is just the big difference between multiplayer and singleplayer, on multiplayer the horror is another player comes up your sheetrope with a loaded gun. Which is much more frightening in my opinion then having to deal with zombies occasionally breaking into my base. Albie and lucy the axe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talksintext Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 They're both cheap. My house rules include the provision that you must always be able to be reached by zeds wherever you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albie Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I destroy the stairs in a premade building as that's what I would do IRL (not like this situation would ever happen0, but if a server has rules against it, I won't bother. I'd rather stick to their rules and keep playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f3rret Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 "6. Get up the staircase, then destroy it." - Max Brooks Ohbal, Footmuffin, Albie and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daylanb Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Smashing stairs is perfectly fine, same with building a base on stilts. It would be awesome if you needed a support within say 5 tiles of something in the air or if a pillar could only support a certain amount of weight.It would be kinda cheap, and not my cup of tea but still realistic. A levitating fortress is lame though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albie Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I wasn't aware you could make levitating fortresses, do they not collapse under the weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarome Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I wasn't aware you could make levitating fortresses, do they not collapse under the weight? No, but sometimes the player colapses due to the weight of his heavy conscience for having a cheap anti-zombie defense, xd f3rret, sardaukar11, Albie and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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