King jjwpenguin Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 As you can see this is a list of clothing ideas but it will be very long and extensive. I recommend you get what you need now if you plan to read it all the way through and if not well you may be here a while still. Now let’s get right to the actual thing you guys are here for! First of all I feel clothing should have each different resistances and effects. Some examples are the following.· Bullet resistant- This means you have a chance to not get hit by the bullet but still can.· Scratch resistant- Zombies have a low chance of scratching you.· Fire resistance- You won’t burn right away.· Damage resistance- This protects from most other sources like player weapons and such.· Water resistant- This slows the speed at which you get wet.Now for the clothing effects or special things certain clothes have.· Insulated- You can keep warm for longer· Quick dry- It dries faster (Explained later)· Warm- it provides warmth· Cool- It cools you down.· Baggy- these make you less nimble· Tight- a counterpart to baggy which is torn easy but more nimble than other clothes· Bright- These make you more noticeable and appear in neon colors.· Camouflaged- This means you are less likely to be spotted.· Hooded- it has a hood providing more warmth, resistance, and hidden identity from behind.· Thick-This means it is wet longer but is normally warmer.Now for a list of things that can happen to clothes.· Torn- this happens after many scratches and lowers clothing stats.· Burnt- Similar to torn but after fire and slightly more effective.· Wet/soaked- it cools you down faster. Comes from rain or manually soaking.· Bloody- Zombies notice you from farther. Happens after you are bleeding and are not bandaged.· Worn out- if you wear the clothes for too long they become worn out. Causes discomfort and lowers stats by a slight amount.· Sweaty- this works like bloody but comes when you are hot for a while or run for a while.Here is now a list about some other features:· Washing/drying machine- Using the washing machine removes the blood or sweat from clothes. The dryer just dry’s them cause the washing machine leaves them wet. These require both power and water so they only last so long. While looking in it shows a bar like the stove but will not rise until its closed (You’re not looking in it)· Clothes line- Like the dryer but slower and needs to be placed outside. If it rains they slowly get soaked.· Uncomfortable moodle- this happens when you put on to many layers in the heat or say put a t-shirt over a jacket. It may also cause other problems likes rashes, blisters, and more. It also makes you work slower and do everything slightly slower. Now to get to a final thing before the long list of clothes that goes on forever. The body is divided into categories of clothing. There are 4 main categories that sub divide like so.· The head- it covers the face, head, and neck.· The chest- Torso, arms, wrists, hands, and elbows.· The legs- Legs and knees.· The feet- Feet… Side note: These areas mean that’s what is protected. So having on a waterproof hat doesn’t mean you are waterproof entirely or having a bullet resistant vest means no matter where it hits you’re resistant everywhere. Having on something that protects your head isn’t the same as your face. Please remember this and sorry for any confusion.It is however important to note some pieces of clothing span multiple areas like a poncho may span over your body and legs. Now without further ado, a HUGE list of clothes and what not. Remember that these are just basic ideas with nothing to in detail because I figure that’s up to the devs and opinions.And for a little example or key of what these mean here you go:· Item name- Description of object (Where it covers)Now let’s start with the head:· Cowboy hat- this provides some water resistance, very little scratch resistance, and some cooling. (Head)· Baseball cap- this provides little water resistance, next to no scratch resistance, and little cooling. (Head)· Motorcycle helmet- Provides high scratch resistance, medium damage resistance, its fireproof and waterproof, low bullet resistance, and some warmth and insulation. Can’t be wet. (Head, Face)· Bike helmet- This is like the motorcycle helmet but provides no warmth, is fire and water resistant not proof, and has lowered resistance number by a good amount. Can’t be wet. (Head)· Straw hat- Provides little water resistance, has medium cooling, and is torn easy with little scratch resistance. (Head)· Sweatband- This provides a little extra running duration, is quick drying, has some cooling, is also tight with low durability, and next to no resistance. It comes in bright and camo colors. (Head)· Bandana- This can be worn two ways, on the head or face. On the head it provides little cooling, is quick dry, and comes in both camo and bright colors. On the face it does pretty much the same but covers the face and now hides the player’s identity. (Head or Face)· Top Hat- This provides little water resistance, low scratch resistance, and slight warmth. It was made for a joke for the most part. (Head)· Glasses-These are very fragile and provide a slight boost in sight. Can’t be wt. (Head)· Sun glasses- Besides looking cool they give you ever so slight cooling and make the screen slightly darker. At night they decrease your vision drastically. Can’t be wet. (Head)· Ski mask- This provides warmth, insulation, and slight scratch resistance. I will also hide your identity and only comes in black.· Goggles- These lower your visibility arc so you don’t see too far to your sides but they provide slight warmth, slight scratch resistance, very little damage resistance, and is water/fire proof. They will also allow you to see farther in heavy weather if that is ever implemented. (Face)· Gas Mask- slight warmth and resistance, hidden identity, and immunity to air based toxins comes at the cost of lower stamina and lowered visibility. (Head, Face)· Beanie- This provides moderate heat, some insulation, slight scratch resistance, and is thick. It can be camo and bright as well. (Head)· Scarf- This provides some warmth, little scratch resistance, and can be camo or bright. (Neck)· Military helmet- Provides major scratch resistance, medium damage resistance, low bullet resistance, and is fire/water proof. It only comes in camo or green and is rarely found on Z’s. it can’t be wet.(Head)· Masks-This hides your identity, provides slight scratch resistance, warmth slight warmth and insulation. These are mostly vanity and for fun. Can’t have the wet effect. (Face)· Headlight- this provides light based on the users direction that they are facing. It provides no buffs besides lighting. (Head)· Hardhat- This provides high scratch resistance, and some damage resistance, as well as a little warmth and insulation. It comes in yellow. (Head)· Shower cap- This provides a little bit of scratch resistance and is waterproof. (Head)· Welding Mask- This lowers your view distance but provides high scratch resistance, some damage resistance, and slight bullet resistance. It is also waterproof and fireproof. It also can get any clothing effects beside bloody. (head, face) The Chest:· Costumes- they provide slight warmth, and insulation as well as some scratch resistance but once again mostly vanity. (Entire chest, possibly legs.)· Sweater- this provides large amount s of warmth, good insulation, and some scratch resistance. They can be bright or camo as well. They also are thick.(Torso, arms, elbows, wrists)· T-shirt- These provide very little scratch resistance and slight warmth. They are very basic. They also come in bright and camo. (Torso)· Turtlenecks- These are warm shirts that are tight, have some insulation, are quick dry, and provide little resistance. Can be camo and bright. (Chest, Neck, arms, wrists, elbow.)· Vest- this is like the t-shirt but just slightly less stats. (Torso)· Jacket-This is equipped slightly faster since the zipper, has medium heat and some insulation, as well as it’s hooded and can be camo or bright.· Long sleeve shirt- Like the t-shirt but has slightly higher stats and covers more. (Torso, arms, elbows, and wrists.)· Leather vest- High scratch resistance, little heat and insulation, and is waterproof. It also comes in only brown and black. (Torso)· Leather Jacket- High scratch resistance, some warmth and insulation, and its waterproof. It comes in black or brown. (Torso, Arms, Elbows, Wrists)· Dress- it has medium warmth and insulation but is more likely to get burned and comes in bright colors and regular. It can be worn by both genders but causes guys to be uncomfortable. (Torso, Legs, knees)· Sports Bra- This is a female only item that provides slight cooling, quick dry, slight scratch resistance, and extends running abilities slightly. It can be bright and camo as well. (Torso)· Bikini top- Female only item that is like the sports bra but has less cooling, no endurance buff and faster drying. It comes in all colors including bright and camo. (Torso)· Tang top- this provides slight cooling, has quick dry, and provides little scratch resistance. (Torso)· Suit- this provides ok scratch resistance, some warmth, some insulation, and comes in normal tux colors only. (Torso, arms, elbows, wrists)· Button up shirt- This provides little warmth and little scratch resistance. It comes in all colors including bright and camo. (Torso)· Winter coat- This is a large coat that provides water resistance, high insulation, medium scratch resistance, and high warmth. It also comes in all colors including camo and bright as well as it is hooded. (Head, neck, torso, arms, elbows, wrists)· Thermal shirt-It provides medium warmth, slight insulation, low resistance, and come in all colors including camo and bright. Bright is the rarest color however. (Torso, arms, wrists, elbows)· Bulletproof vest- It weighs a lot but provides high bullet resistance, slight warmth, and comes in camo, green, black, and tan. (Torso)· Workout shirt- This provides little resistance, some cooling, and can quick dry. It also comes in all colors available including camo and bright. (Torso)· Poncho- This item is hooded and waterproof. It comes in green, orange, yellow, and clear. It provides very little scratch resistance. Can’t be wet. (Head, neck, torso, arms, knees, elbows, wrists, legs)· Elbow pads- These provide little damage resistance, medium scratch resistance, is fireproof and waterproof, and slight warmth. They come in all colors including bright and camo. It can’t have the wet effect. (Elbow)· Fluffy gloves- these are slightly warm, provide little insulation, and little scratch resistance. They also provide a little happiness boost. Can be any color or bright. (Hands)· Rain coat-This provides little insulation, medium resistance, little warmth, is hooded, and is waterproof. It comes in all colors including camo and bright. (Torso, Head, Neck, Arms, Elbows, Wrists)· Bike gloves- These provide some warmth, slight scratch resistance, and can be any color. (Hands)· Work gloves- These provide some warmth, decent scratch resistance, and are water resistant. It also slows crafting/transfer speed. They come in grey, camo, green, and black. (Hands)· Hunting gloves- like work gloves but have less resistance but are faster at transferring items. (Hands)· Boxing gloves- These provide some warmth and good scratch resistance but take up both hand slots. It allows you to punch and push zombies to try and knock them over more effectively. Only in red. (Hands)· Robes- These provide slight insulation and ok warmth. They also provide some scratch resistance. They do however make you tired slightly faster and take longer to dry. They come in all colors.(Arms, Elbows, Torso, and legs)· Wetsuit- This provides ok warmth and insulation as well as scratch resistance at the cost of some speed and discomfort over a long period of wear. It is also water resistant and keeps warm when wet but takes longer to dry. It comes in black, blue, and bright pink. (All but head, face, feet, and hands)Now for the legs:· Pants- Provide warmth, slight scratch resistance, and come in all colors including camo and bright. (Legs, Knees)· Shorts- these provide little warmth, little resistance, and come in all colors including bright and camo. (Legs)· Skirt- low warmth, low scratch resistance, and come in all colors but cause you to be less nimble. (Legs)· Sweatpants- this are baggy, dry slower, but provide decent warmth and insulation as well as some scratch resistance. They come in basic colors and bright. (Legs, Knees)· Bikini Bottom- These are similar too bikini tops but the bottom. (Legs)· Boxers- They provide slight warmth, little resistance, and come in all colors. (Legs)· Pajama pants- these pants provide some warmth and insulation, little scratch resistance, come in all colors, and make you tired slightly faster. (Legs, knees)· Thermal pants- Good insulation and warmth, little resistance, and come in all colors. (Legs, knees)· Formal pants- these are pants with less resistance and match the suit colors. (Legs, Knees)· Skinny jeans- these provide some warmth and little resistance but tear easy due to being tight.· Short shorts- these provide little warmth and scratch resistance. They come in all shades of blue and black.· Swim shorts- these provide little warmth, little insulation, some water resistance, and is quick to dry. They come in all colors.· Cargo pants- these have decent warmth and scratch resistance, as well as some insulation, but are baggy and slow your nimbleness. They come in all colors.· Stockings- these provide very slight warmth but tear easy. They come in black and red.· Leggings- these provide slight warmth and insulation as well as some scratch resistance. They come in all colors.· Overalls- this provides some scratch resistance, some warmth and little insulation. Only comes in shade of blue. (Legs, Knees, Torso.)· Parachute pants- these are baggy and provide very little warmth and scratch resistance. It makes you less nimble. They also take longer to dry.Now for the feet:· Socks- Slight warmth and scratch resistance. Comes in all colors· Long socks- Better socks with higher stats. Comes in all colors· Fluffy socks- even more warmth than tall socks and some insulation but less resistance. Comes in all colors but Camo.· Flip flops- these provide slight cooling, next to no resistance, but make more noise when moving. Comes in all colors.· Hiking boots- These boots give a bit of a speed buff when off terrain. They also provide good insulation and warmth, as well as good scratch resistance, and slight water resistance. They come in Brown, Black, Tan, Green, and Camo.· Running shoes- These give a slight boost when running on the road/sidewalk. They also give some scratch resistance, little warmth, they are also water resistance, but stay wet longer.· Cowboy boots- These provide good scratch resistance, some warmth and insulation, as well as water resistance. They come in shades of tan, brown, and black.· High heels- these provide little warmth, insulation, and scratch resistance however they do cause discomfort. They also come in all colors.· Flats- these are standard shoes with low scratch resistance, little warmth, and little insulation. They come in all colors.· Winter boots- these provide medium warmth, high insulation, slight water resistance, and some scratch resistance. They come in all colors.· Steel toed boots- these are the same as hiking boots but with more scratch resistance, slight damage resistance, and higher chance to kill when stomping.· Combat boots- These are like hiking boots but without the off road speed buff.· Cleats- These provide a boost to stomping power and increase speed and traction off road.Finally the accessories and others:· Tie and Bowtie- this provides a very slight warmth boost but is mostly vanity.· Watch- this is needed to see the time. It can also have a compass and thermometer.· Cord bracelet- like the paracord bracelets but can be worn and undone into cordage.· Rubber bracelet- this is another version of a rubber band that can be worn and used in crafting.· Rings- they do provide a buff to punching.· Neckless- these can be used to get items like beads, string, and gems. This is now the end of my huge list. Hoped you enjoyed and leave a comment down below. Enjoy! Lumbo, Jericoshost, Albie and 8 others 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeardedRooster Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Man there has been a outcry for new clothes or clothes types lately lol yes its why i made my post so we have a collective of ideas--- As you can see this is a list of clothing ideas but it will be very long and extensive. I recommend you get what you need now if you plan to read it all the way through and if not well you may be here a while still. Now let’s get right to the actual thing you guys are here for! First of all I feel clothing should have each different resistances and effects. Some examples are the following.· Bullet resistant- This means you have a chance to not get hit by the bullet but still can.· Scratch resistant- Zombies have a low chance of scratching you.· Fire resistance- You won’t burn right away.· Damage resistance- This protects from most other sources like player weapons and such.· Water resistant- This slows the speed at which you get wet.Now for the clothing effects or special things certain clothes have.· Insulated- You can keep warm for longer· Quick dry- It dries faster (Explained later)· Warm- it provides warmth· Cool- It cools you down.· Baggy- these make you less nimble· Tight- a counterpart to baggy which is torn easy but more nimble than other clothes· Bright- These make you more noticeable and appear in neon colors.· Camouflaged- This means you are less likely to be spotted.· Hooded- it has a hood providing more warmth, resistance, and hidden identity from behind.· Thick-This means it is wet longer but is normally warmer.Now for a list of things that can happen to clothes.· Torn- this happens after many scratches and lowers clothing stats.· Burnt- Similar to torn but after fire and slightly more effective.· Wet/soaked- it cools you down faster. Comes from rain or manually soaking.· Bloody- Zombies notice you from farther. Happens after you are bleeding and are not bandaged.· Worn out- if you wear the clothes for too long they become worn out. Causes discomfort and lowers stats by a slight amount.· Sweaty- this works like bloody but comes when you are hot for a while or run for a while.Here is now a list about some other features:· Washing/drying machine- Using the washing machine removes the blood or sweat from clothes. The dryer just dry’s them cause the washing machine leaves them wet. These require both power and water so they only last so long. While looking in it shows a bar like the stove but will not rise until its closed (You’re not looking in it)· Clothes line- Like the dryer but slower and needs to be placed outside. If it rains they slowly get soaked.· Uncomfortable moodle- this happens when you put on to many layers in the heat or say put a t-shirt over a jacket. It may also cause other problems likes rashes, blisters, and more. It also makes you work slower and do everything slightly slower. Now to get to a final thing before the long list of clothes that goes on forever. The body is divided into categories of clothing. There are 4 main categories that sub divide like so.· The head- it covers the face, head, and neck.· The chest- Torso, arms, wrists, hands, and elbows.· The legs- Legs and knees.· The feet- Feet… Side note: These areas mean that’s what is protected. So having on a waterproof hat doesn’t mean you are waterproof entirely or having a bullet resistant vest means no matter where it hits you’re resistant everywhere. Having on something that protects your head isn’t the same as your face. Please remember this and sorry for any confusion.It is however important to note some pieces of clothing span multiple areas like a poncho may span over your body and legs. Now without further ado, a HUGE list of clothes and what not. Remember that these are just basic ideas with nothing to in detail because I figure that’s up to the devs and opinions.And for a little example or key of what these mean here you go:· Item name- Description of object (Where it covers)Now let’s start with the head:· Cowboy hat- this provides some water resistance, very little scratch resistance, and some cooling. (Head)· Baseball cap- this provides little water resistance, next to no scratch resistance, and little cooling. (Head)· Motorcycle helmet- Provides high scratch resistance, medium damage resistance, its fireproof and waterproof, low bullet resistance, and some warmth and insulation. Can’t be wet. (Head, Face)· Bike helmet- This is like the motorcycle helmet but provides no warmth, is fire and water resistant not proof, and has lowered resistance number by a good amount. Can’t be wet. (Head)· Straw hat- Provides little water resistance, has medium cooling, and is torn easy with little scratch resistance. (Head)· Sweatband- This provides a little extra running duration, is quick drying, has some cooling, is also tight with low durability, and next to no resistance. It comes in bright and camo colors. (Head)· Bandana- This can be worn two ways, on the head or face. On the head it provides little cooling, is quick dry, and comes in both camo and bright colors. On the face it does pretty much the same but covers the face and now hides the player’s identity. (Head or Face)· Top Hat- This provides little water resistance, low scratch resistance, and slight warmth. It was made for a joke for the most part. (Head)· Glasses-These are very fragile and provide a slight boost in sight. Can’t be wt. (Head)· Sun glasses- Besides looking cool they give you ever so slight cooling and make the screen slightly darker. At night they decrease your vision drastically. Can’t be wet. (Head)· Ski mask- This provides warmth, insulation, and slight scratch resistance. I will also hide your identity and only comes in black.· Goggles- These lower your visibility arc so you don’t see too far to your sides but they provide slight warmth, slight scratch resistance, very little damage resistance, and is water/fire proof. They will also allow you to see farther in heavy weather if that is ever implemented. (Face)· Gas Mask- slight warmth and resistance, hidden identity, and immunity to air based toxins comes at the cost of lower stamina and lowered visibility. (Head, Face)· Beanie- This provides moderate heat, some insulation, slight scratch resistance, and is thick. It can be camo and bright as well. (Head)· Scarf- This provides some warmth, little scratch resistance, and can be camo or bright. (Neck)· Military helmet- Provides major scratch resistance, medium damage resistance, low bullet resistance, and is fire/water proof. It only comes in camo or green and is rarely found on Z’s. it can’t be wet.(Head)· Masks-This hides your identity, provides slight scratch resistance, warmth slight warmth and insulation. These are mostly vanity and for fun. Can’t have the wet effect. (Face)· Headlight- this provides light based on the users direction that they are facing. It provides no buffs besides lighting. (Head)· Hardhat- This provides high scratch resistance, and some damage resistance, as well as a little warmth and insulation. It comes in yellow. (Head) The Chest:· Costumes- they provide slight warmth, and insulation as well as some scratch resistance but once again mostly vanity. (Entire chest, possibly legs.)· Sweater- this provides large amount s of warmth, good insulation, and some scratch resistance. They can be bright or camo as well. They also are thick.(Torso, arms, elbows, wrists)· T-shirt- These provide very little scratch resistance and slight warmth. They are very basic. They also come in bright and camo. (Torso)· Turtlenecks- These are warm shirts that are tight, have some insulation, are quick dry, and provide little resistance. Can be camo and bright. (Chest, Neck, arms, wrists, elbow.)· Vest- this is like the t-shirt but just slightly less stats. (Torso)· Jacket-This is equipped slightly faster since the zipper, has medium heat and some insulation, as well as it’s hooded and can be camo or bright.· Long sleeve shirt- Like the t-shirt but has slightly higher stats and covers more. (Torso, arms, elbows, and wrists.)· Leather vest- High scratch resistance, little heat and insulation, and is waterproof. It also comes in only brown and black. (Torso)· Leather Jacket- High scratch resistance, some warmth and insulation, and its waterproof. It comes in black or brown. (Torso, Arms, Elbows, Wrists)· Dress- it has medium warmth and insulation but is more likely to get burned and comes in bright colors and regular. It can be worn by both genders but causes guys to be uncomfortable. (Torso, Legs, knees)· Sports Bra- This is a female only item that provides slight cooling, quick dry, slight scratch resistance, and extends running abilities slightly. It can be bright and camo as well. (Torso)· Bikini top- Female only item that is like the sports bra but has less cooling, no endurance buff and faster drying. It comes in all colors including bright and camo. (Torso)· Tang top- this provides slight cooling, has quick dry, and provides little scratch resistance. (Torso)· Suit- this provides ok scratch resistance, some warmth, some insulation, and comes in normal tux colors only. (Torso, arms, elbows, wrists)· Button up shirt- This provides little warmth and little scratch resistance. It comes in all colors including bright and camo. (Torso)· Winter coat- This is a large coat that provides water resistance, high insulation, medium scratch resistance, and high warmth. It also comes in all colors including camo and bright as well as it is hooded. (Head, neck, torso, arms, elbows, wrists)· Thermal shirt-It provides medium warmth, slight insulation, low resistance, and come in all colors including camo and bright. Bright is the rarest color however. (Torso, arms, wrists, elbows)· Bulletproof vest- It weighs a lot but provides high bullet resistance, slight warmth, and comes in camo, green, black, and tan. (Torso)· Workout shirt- This provides little resistance, some cooling, and can quick dry. It also comes in all colors available including camo and bright. (Torso)· Poncho- This item is hooded and waterproof. It comes in green, orange, yellow, and clear. It provides very little scratch resistance. Can’t be wet. (Head, neck, torso, arms, knees, elbows, wrists, legs)· Elbow pads- These provide little damage resistance, medium scratch resistance, is fireproof and waterproof, and slight warmth. They come in all colors including bright and camo. It can’t have the wet effect. (Elbow)· Fluffy gloves- these are slightly warm, provide little insulation, and little scratch resistance. They also provide a little happiness boost. Can be any color or bright. (Hands)· Rain coat-This provides little insulation, medium resistance, little warmth, is hooded, and is waterproof. It comes in all colors including camo and bright. (Torso, Head, Neck, Arms, Elbows, Wrists)· Bike gloves- These provide some warmth, slight scratch resistance, and can be any color. (Hands)· Work gloves- These provide some warmth, decent scratch resistance, and are water resistant. It also slows crafting/transfer speed. They come in grey, camo, green, and black. (Hands)· Hunting gloves- like work gloves but have less resistance but are faster at transferring items. (Hands)· Boxing gloves- These provide some warmth and good scratch resistance but take up both hand slots. It allows you to punch and push zombies to try and knock them over more effectively. Only in red. (Hands) Now for the legs:· Pants- Provide warmth, slight scratch resistance, and come in all colors including camo and bright. (Legs, Knees)· Shorts- these provide little warmth, little resistance, and come in all colors including bright and camo. (Legs)· Skirt- low warmth, low scratch resistance, and come in all colors but cause you to be less nimble. (Legs)· Sweatpants- this are baggy, dry slower, but provide decent warmth and insulation as well as some scratch resistance. They come in basic colors and bright. (Legs, Knees)· Bikini Bottom- These are similar too bikini tops but the bottom. (Legs)· Boxers- They provide slight warmth, little resistance, and come in all colors. (Legs)· Pajama pants- these pants provide some warmth and insulation, little scratch resistance, come in all colors, and make you tired slightly faster. (Legs, knees)· Thermal pants- Good insulation and warmth, little resistance, and come in all colors. (Legs, knees)· Formal pants- these are pants with less resistance and match the suit colors. (Legs, Knees)· Skinny jeans- these provide some warmth and little resistance but tear easy due to being tight.· Short shorts- these provide little warmth and scratch resistance. They come in all shades of blue and black.· Swim shorts- these provide little warmth, little insulation, some water resistance, and is quick to dry. They come in all colors.· Cargo pants- these have decent warmth and scratch resistance, as well as some insulation, but are baggy and slow your nimbleness. They come in all colors.· Stockings- these provide very slight warmth but tear easy. They come in black and red.· Leggings- these provide slight warmth and insulation as well as some scratch resistance. They come in all colors.· Overalls- this provides some scratch resistance, some warmth and little insulation. Only comes in shade of blue. (Legs, Knees, Torso.) Now for the feet:· Socks- Slight warmth and scratch resistance. Comes in all colors· Long socks- Better socks with higher stats. Comes in all colors· Fluffy socks- even more warmth than tall socks and some insulation but less resistance. Comes in all colors but Camo.· Flip flops- these provide slight cooling, next to no resistance, but make more noise when moving. Comes in all colors.· Hiking boots- These boots give a bit of a speed buff when off terrain. They also provide good insulation and warmth, as well as good scratch resistance, and slight water resistance. They come in Brown, Black, Tan, Green, and Camo.· Running shoes- These give a slight boost when running on the road/sidewalk. They also give some scratch resistance, little warmth, they are also water resistance, but stay wet longer.· Cowboy boots- These provide good scratch resistance, some warmth and insulation, as well as water resistance. They come in shades of tan, brown, and black.· High heels- these provide little warmth, insulation, and scratch resistance however they do cause discomfort. They also come in all colors.· Flats- these are standard shoes with low scratch resistance, little warmth, and little insulation. They come in all colors.· Winter boots- these provide medium warmth, high insulation, slight water resistance, and some scratch resistance. They come in all colors.· Steel toed boots- these are the same as hiking boots but with more scratch resistance, slight damage resistance, and higher chance to kill when stomping.· Combat boots- These are like hiking boots but without the off road speed buff. Finally the accessories and others:· Tie and Bowtie- this provides a very slight warmth boost but is mostly vanity.· Watch- this is needed to see the time. It can also have a compass and thermometer.· Cord bracelet- like the paracord bracelets but can be worn and undone into cordage. This is now the end of my huge list. Hoped you enjoyed and leave a comment down below. Enjoy! And this is due to edit due to being rushed and the sheer amount here. king jjwpenguin, do you mind if i add your stuff to my list? i will put your name in references and credit your info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromatic_Corgi Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Wow so many great ideas, I hope TIS will add new clothing soon. I cant wait for the day when I can burn the sweaters and vests in a giant bonfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxBeckin Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 If this happens, I will be farming potatoes wearing stockings, cowboy boots and a bicycle helmet. rabidbadger and Johnny Fisher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Man there has been a outcry for new clothes or clothes types lately lol yes its why i made my post so we have a collective of ideas--- As you can see this is a list of clothing ideas but it will be very long and extensive. I recommend you get what you need now if you plan to read it all the way through and if not well you may be here a while still. Now let’s get right to the actual thing you guys are here for! First of all I feel clothing should have each different resistances and effects. Some examples are the following.· Bullet resistant- This means you have a chance to not get hit by the bullet but still can.· Scratch resistant- Zombies have a low chance of scratching you.· Fire resistance- You won’t burn right away.· Damage resistance- This protects from most other sources like player weapons and such.· Water resistant- This slows the speed at which you get wet.Now for the clothing effects or special things certain clothes have.· Insulated- You can keep warm for longer· Quick dry- It dries faster (Explained later)· Warm- it provides warmth· Cool- It cools you down.· Baggy- these make you less nimble· Tight- a counterpart to baggy which is torn easy but more nimble than other clothes· Bright- These make you more noticeable and appear in neon colors.· Camouflaged- This means you are less likely to be spotted.· Hooded- it has a hood providing more warmth, resistance, and hidden identity from behind.· Thick-This means it is wet longer but is normally warmer.Now for a list of things that can happen to clothes.· Torn- this happens after many scratches and lowers clothing stats.· Burnt- Similar to torn but after fire and slightly more effective.· Wet/soaked- it cools you down faster. Comes from rain or manually soaking.· Bloody- Zombies notice you from farther. Happens after you are bleeding and are not bandaged.· Worn out- if you wear the clothes for too long they become worn out. Causes discomfort and lowers stats by a slight amount.· Sweaty- this works like bloody but comes when you are hot for a while or run for a while.Here is now a list about some other features:· Washing/drying machine- Using the washing machine removes the blood or sweat from clothes. The dryer just dry’s them cause the washing machine leaves them wet. These require both power and water so they only last so long. While looking in it shows a bar like the stove but will not rise until its closed (You’re not looking in it)· Clothes line- Like the dryer but slower and needs to be placed outside. If it rains they slowly get soaked.· Uncomfortable moodle- this happens when you put on to many layers in the heat or say put a t-shirt over a jacket. It may also cause other problems likes rashes, blisters, and more. It also makes you work slower and do everything slightly slower. Now to get to a final thing before the long list of clothes that goes on forever. The body is divided into categories of clothing. There are 4 main categories that sub divide like so.· The head- it covers the face, head, and neck.· The chest- Torso, arms, wrists, hands, and elbows.· The legs- Legs and knees.· The feet- Feet… Side note: These areas mean that’s what is protected. So having on a waterproof hat doesn’t mean you are waterproof entirely or having a bullet resistant vest means no matter where it hits you’re resistant everywhere. Having on something that protects your head isn’t the same as your face. Please remember this and sorry for any confusion.It is however important to note some pieces of clothing span multiple areas like a poncho may span over your body and legs. Now without further ado, a HUGE list of clothes and what not. Remember that these are just basic ideas with nothing to in detail because I figure that’s up to the devs and opinions.And for a little example or key of what these mean here you go:· Item name- Description of object (Where it covers)Now let’s start with the head:· Cowboy hat- this provides some water resistance, very little scratch resistance, and some cooling. (Head)· Baseball cap- this provides little water resistance, next to no scratch resistance, and little cooling. (Head)· Motorcycle helmet- Provides high scratch resistance, medium damage resistance, its fireproof and waterproof, low bullet resistance, and some warmth and insulation. Can’t be wet. (Head, Face)· Bike helmet- This is like the motorcycle helmet but provides no warmth, is fire and water resistant not proof, and has lowered resistance number by a good amount. Can’t be wet. (Head)· Straw hat- Provides little water resistance, has medium cooling, and is torn easy with little scratch resistance. (Head)· Sweatband- This provides a little extra running duration, is quick drying, has some cooling, is also tight with low durability, and next to no resistance. It comes in bright and camo colors. (Head)· Bandana- This can be worn two ways, on the head or face. On the head it provides little cooling, is quick dry, and comes in both camo and bright colors. On the face it does pretty much the same but covers the face and now hides the player’s identity. (Head or Face)· Top Hat- This provides little water resistance, low scratch resistance, and slight warmth. It was made for a joke for the most part. (Head)· Glasses-These are very fragile and provide a slight boost in sight. Can’t be wt. (Head)· Sun glasses- Besides looking cool they give you ever so slight cooling and make the screen slightly darker. At night they decrease your vision drastically. Can’t be wet. (Head)· Ski mask- This provides warmth, insulation, and slight scratch resistance. I will also hide your identity and only comes in black.· Goggles- These lower your visibility arc so you don’t see too far to your sides but they provide slight warmth, slight scratch resistance, very little damage resistance, and is water/fire proof. They will also allow you to see farther in heavy weather if that is ever implemented. (Face)· Gas Mask- slight warmth and resistance, hidden identity, and immunity to air based toxins comes at the cost of lower stamina and lowered visibility. (Head, Face)· Beanie- This provides moderate heat, some insulation, slight scratch resistance, and is thick. It can be camo and bright as well. (Head)· Scarf- This provides some warmth, little scratch resistance, and can be camo or bright. (Neck)· Military helmet- Provides major scratch resistance, medium damage resistance, low bullet resistance, and is fire/water proof. It only comes in camo or green and is rarely found on Z’s. it can’t be wet.(Head)· Masks-This hides your identity, provides slight scratch resistance, warmth slight warmth and insulation. These are mostly vanity and for fun. Can’t have the wet effect. (Face)· Headlight- this provides light based on the users direction that they are facing. It provides no buffs besides lighting. (Head)· Hardhat- This provides high scratch resistance, and some damage resistance, as well as a little warmth and insulation. It comes in yellow. (Head) The Chest:· Costumes- they provide slight warmth, and insulation as well as some scratch resistance but once again mostly vanity. (Entire chest, possibly legs.)· Sweater- this provides large amount s of warmth, good insulation, and some scratch resistance. They can be bright or camo as well. They also are thick.(Torso, arms, elbows, wrists)· T-shirt- These provide very little scratch resistance and slight warmth. They are very basic. They also come in bright and camo. (Torso)· Turtlenecks- These are warm shirts that are tight, have some insulation, are quick dry, and provide little resistance. Can be camo and bright. (Chest, Neck, arms, wrists, elbow.)· Vest- this is like the t-shirt but just slightly less stats. (Torso)· Jacket-This is equipped slightly faster since the zipper, has medium heat and some insulation, as well as it’s hooded and can be camo or bright.· Long sleeve shirt- Like the t-shirt but has slightly higher stats and covers more. (Torso, arms, elbows, and wrists.)· Leather vest- High scratch resistance, little heat and insulation, and is waterproof. It also comes in only brown and black. (Torso)· Leather Jacket- High scratch resistance, some warmth and insulation, and its waterproof. It comes in black or brown. (Torso, Arms, Elbows, Wrists)· Dress- it has medium warmth and insulation but is more likely to get burned and comes in bright colors and regular. It can be worn by both genders but causes guys to be uncomfortable. (Torso, Legs, knees)· Sports Bra- This is a female only item that provides slight cooling, quick dry, slight scratch resistance, and extends running abilities slightly. It can be bright and camo as well. (Torso)· Bikini top- Female only item that is like the sports bra but has less cooling, no endurance buff and faster drying. It comes in all colors including bright and camo. (Torso)· Tang top- this provides slight cooling, has quick dry, and provides little scratch resistance. (Torso)· Suit- this provides ok scratch resistance, some warmth, some insulation, and comes in normal tux colors only. (Torso, arms, elbows, wrists)· Button up shirt- This provides little warmth and little scratch resistance. It comes in all colors including bright and camo. (Torso)· Winter coat- This is a large coat that provides water resistance, high insulation, medium scratch resistance, and high warmth. It also comes in all colors including camo and bright as well as it is hooded. (Head, neck, torso, arms, elbows, wrists)· Thermal shirt-It provides medium warmth, slight insulation, low resistance, and come in all colors including camo and bright. Bright is the rarest color however. (Torso, arms, wrists, elbows)· Bulletproof vest- It weighs a lot but provides high bullet resistance, slight warmth, and comes in camo, green, black, and tan. (Torso)· Workout shirt- This provides little resistance, some cooling, and can quick dry. It also comes in all colors available including camo and bright. (Torso)· Poncho- This item is hooded and waterproof. It comes in green, orange, yellow, and clear. It provides very little scratch resistance. Can’t be wet. (Head, neck, torso, arms, knees, elbows, wrists, legs)· Elbow pads- These provide little damage resistance, medium scratch resistance, is fireproof and waterproof, and slight warmth. They come in all colors including bright and camo. It can’t have the wet effect. (Elbow)· Fluffy gloves- these are slightly warm, provide little insulation, and little scratch resistance. They also provide a little happiness boost. Can be any color or bright. (Hands)· Rain coat-This provides little insulation, medium resistance, little warmth, is hooded, and is waterproof. It comes in all colors including camo and bright. (Torso, Head, Neck, Arms, Elbows, Wrists)· Bike gloves- These provide some warmth, slight scratch resistance, and can be any color. (Hands)· Work gloves- These provide some warmth, decent scratch resistance, and are water resistant. It also slows crafting/transfer speed. They come in grey, camo, green, and black. (Hands)· Hunting gloves- like work gloves but have less resistance but are faster at transferring items. (Hands)· Boxing gloves- These provide some warmth and good scratch resistance but take up both hand slots. It allows you to punch and push zombies to try and knock them over more effectively. Only in red. (Hands) Now for the legs:· Pants- Provide warmth, slight scratch resistance, and come in all colors including camo and bright. (Legs, Knees)· Shorts- these provide little warmth, little resistance, and come in all colors including bright and camo. (Legs)· Skirt- low warmth, low scratch resistance, and come in all colors but cause you to be less nimble. (Legs)· Sweatpants- this are baggy, dry slower, but provide decent warmth and insulation as well as some scratch resistance. They come in basic colors and bright. (Legs, Knees)· Bikini Bottom- These are similar too bikini tops but the bottom. (Legs)· Boxers- They provide slight warmth, little resistance, and come in all colors. (Legs)· Pajama pants- these pants provide some warmth and insulation, little scratch resistance, come in all colors, and make you tired slightly faster. (Legs, knees)· Thermal pants- Good insulation and warmth, little resistance, and come in all colors. (Legs, knees)· Formal pants- these are pants with less resistance and match the suit colors. (Legs, Knees)· Skinny jeans- these provide some warmth and little resistance but tear easy due to being tight.· Short shorts- these provide little warmth and scratch resistance. They come in all shades of blue and black.· Swim shorts- these provide little warmth, little insulation, some water resistance, and is quick to dry. They come in all colors.· Cargo pants- these have decent warmth and scratch resistance, as well as some insulation, but are baggy and slow your nimbleness. They come in all colors.· Stockings- these provide very slight warmth but tear easy. They come in black and red.· Leggings- these provide slight warmth and insulation as well as some scratch resistance. They come in all colors.· Overalls- this provides some scratch resistance, some warmth and little insulation. Only comes in shade of blue. (Legs, Knees, Torso.) Now for the feet:· Socks- Slight warmth and scratch resistance. Comes in all colors· Long socks- Better socks with higher stats. Comes in all colors· Fluffy socks- even more warmth than tall socks and some insulation but less resistance. Comes in all colors but Camo.· Flip flops- these provide slight cooling, next to no resistance, but make more noise when moving. Comes in all colors.· Hiking boots- These boots give a bit of a speed buff when off terrain. They also provide good insulation and warmth, as well as good scratch resistance, and slight water resistance. They come in Brown, Black, Tan, Green, and Camo.· Running shoes- These give a slight boost when running on the road/sidewalk. They also give some scratch resistance, little warmth, they are also water resistance, but stay wet longer.· Cowboy boots- These provide good scratch resistance, some warmth and insulation, as well as water resistance. They come in shades of tan, brown, and black.· High heels- these provide little warmth, insulation, and scratch resistance however they do cause discomfort. They also come in all colors.· Flats- these are standard shoes with low scratch resistance, little warmth, and little insulation. They come in all colors.· Winter boots- these provide medium warmth, high insulation, slight water resistance, and some scratch resistance. They come in all colors.· Steel toed boots- these are the same as hiking boots but with more scratch resistance, slight damage resistance, and higher chance to kill when stomping.· Combat boots- These are like hiking boots but without the off road speed buff. Finally the accessories and others:· Tie and Bowtie- this provides a very slight warmth boost but is mostly vanity.· Watch- this is needed to see the time. It can also have a compass and thermometer.· Cord bracelet- like the paracord bracelets but can be worn and undone into cordage. This is now the end of my huge list. Hoped you enjoyed and leave a comment down below. Enjoy! And this is due to edit due to being rushed and the sheer amount here. king jjwpenguin, do you mind if i add your stuff to my list? i will put your name in references and credit your info. Go nuts still adding some stuff though. this was just to put it out there. i plan to update it with things like bathrobes, wet suits, and such. More full body items as well as some more minor fixes. Still this is a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 If this happens, I will be farming potatoes wearing stockings, cowboy boots and a bicycle helmet.Most of these are useful but other are for people who role play or what not. But if they take anything from this list. I want the top hat added. But i would be wearing the tux, fancy pants, and top hat while i drive over zombies in my car. (When they are added.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Wow so many great ideas, I hope TIS will add new clothing soon. I cant wait for the day when I can burn the sweaters and vests in a giant bonfire.Watch them burn! Necromatic_Corgi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobchaos Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I was scared this was going to be another thread asking for esthetics changes, to which I'd say "Function over fashion!", but the mechanics you describe sound almost dwarfy! I'm not sure if the game would benefit from having a dwarf fortress level of complication, but I would certainly like it. One more detail i'd add tho: Zombie blood and gore accumulates on your cloths during combat, leading to increased infection chance in case of scratch, and adding a possibility of infection to bleeding injuries from non-zombie sources (assuming survival mode or bloodborn disease sandbox setting of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Just added some more clothes. hope you enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValueOfGravity Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I think you should get bloody after killing a zombie with a sharp weapon, or after crushing its head. Ex: Stomping a zombie's head should make your shoes/pants bloody, or crushing its head with a blunt weapon could have a random chance of where it splatters. I'm all in for most clothes, however this could take plenty of time to implement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 I think you should get bloody after killing a zombie with a sharp weapon, or after crushing its head. Ex: Stomping a zombie's head should make your shoes/pants bloody, or crushing its head with a blunt weapon could have a random chance of where it splatters. I'm all in for most clothes, however this could take plenty of time to implement. that's what the bloody effect is, but i had originally designed it for when you would bleed. I was mainly considered on the players effects. I didn't see this flaw and it would be nice to add but i feel zombies wouldn't be attracted to there own blood so it would probably be used to make you more uncomfortable or such rather than attraction purposes. but good idea and thank you for the response. the third installment should have that included along with a few other things, after i finish my ideas for vehicles. That is another huge project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValueOfGravity Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I think you should get bloody after killing a zombie with a sharp weapon, or after crushing its head. Ex: Stomping a zombie's head should make your shoes/pants bloody, or crushing its head with a blunt weapon could have a random chance of where it splatters. I'm all in for most clothes, however this could take plenty of time to implement. that's what the bloody effect is, but i had originally designed it for when you would bleed. I was mainly considered on the players effects. I didn't see this flaw and it would be nice to add but i feel zombies wouldn't be attracted to there own blood so it would probably be used to make you more uncomfortable or such rather than attraction purposes. but good idea and thank you for the response. the third installment should have that included along with a few other things, after i finish my ideas for vehicles. That is another huge project. What if bloody clothes made your char panic or pass out? Hemophobia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 I think you should get bloody after killing a zombie with a sharp weapon, or after crushing its head. Ex: Stomping a zombie's head should make your shoes/pants bloody, or crushing its head with a blunt weapon could have a random chance of where it splatters. I'm all in for most clothes, however this could take plenty of time to implement. that's what the bloody effect is, but i had originally designed it for when you would bleed. I was mainly considered on the players effects. I didn't see this flaw and it would be nice to add but i feel zombies wouldn't be attracted to there own blood so it would probably be used to make you more uncomfortable or such rather than attraction purposes. but good idea and thank you for the response. the third installment should have that included along with a few other things, after i finish my ideas for vehicles. That is another huge project. What if bloody clothes made your char panic or pass out? Hemophobia? also never took in traits. i just updated it for the second time with a few new things and a few corrections. I love the ideas though and will be sure to add them. also i figured there could be a trait to make you panic when dirty. still i am working on a cars suggestion first then i will get right on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legoland99 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I must say that I am really impressed. This game has a large pallet of colors for clothes, but they are all the same ! We need more military, shop worker, construction, firefighter, prisoner, trucker, waitress etc types of clothes in the game. It should provide a more realistic way of imagining zombies and what they were before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 I must say that I am really impressed. This game has a large pallet of colors for clothes, but they are all the same ! We need more military, shop worker, construction, firefighter, prisoner, trucker, waitress etc types of clothes in the game. It should provide a more realistic way of imagining zombies and what they were before. thats what this would change. imagine fighting a zombie with a bullet proof vest on or one with a welding mask. it would make your job a lot harder even though they have no real difference to them. Legoland99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legoland99 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Yeah, some zombies, like a military or a cop wearing kevlar would be harder to kill if your skill points for blade/blunt/gun are not high enough. After you kill them you could take their stuff and wear them, sometimes they need to be repaired and they may cost you a bit of you speed if you can't carry enough ( you need more light points to stop having this problem). I would personally chose to wear leather as Zeds can't quite bite through and it will add better protection against them c: Johnny Fisher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfy Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Yeah, some zombies, like a military or a cop wearing kevlar would be harder to kill if your skill points for blade/blunt/gun are not high enough. After you kill them you could take their stuff and wear them, sometimes they need to be repaired and they may cost you a bit of you speed if you can't carry enough ( you need more light points to stop having this problem). I would personally chose to wear leather as Zeds can't quite bite through and it will add better protection against them c:seeing as how you have to destroy the Brain, Kevlar and other such items are irrelevant when it comes to killing zombies. it does not matter what they have on, unless they have a helmet. THAT is the only thing that would actually make it harder for us to kill them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDeliberto Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Great suggestion but I really want military clothing after all, because my character is a Police do not have a police outfit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 Great suggestion but I really want military clothing after all, because my character is a Police do not have a police outfit?well i dint say military or police because that is for another post of mine . still working on suggestion post 34 right now. but good idea still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamiks Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 +1! I was thinking today about how cool RIOT or S.W.A.T. armor would be. You know character would be like a mini-tank with this! ;D Add chainsaw to this = Best Day Ever. PZ lacks three things:Most important - amors,Important - vehiclesLess important - NPC's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromatic_Corgi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 +1! I was thinking today about how cool RIOT or S.W.A.T. armor would be. You know character would be like a mini-tank with this! ;D Add chainsaw to this = Best Day Ever. PZ lacks three things:Most important - amors,Important - vehiclesLess important - NPC'sActually npcs are most important but yeah it would be nice to run around in a sheriff outfit acting like rick grimes. CORAALLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share Posted July 18, 2015 +1! I was thinking today about how cool RIOT or S.W.A.T. armor would be. You know character would be like a mini-tank with this! ;D Add chainsaw to this = Best Day Ever. PZ lacks three things:Most important - amors,Important - vehiclesLess important - NPC'sActually npcs are most important but yeah it would be nice to run around in a sheriff outfit acting like rick grimes. CORAALLL first on a personal note, i would rather have cars before NPC's so i can drive NPC's when they join in. and then with the clothing i plan on another post to talk about police and military clothing separately but it does tie in with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromatic_Corgi Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 +1! I was thinking today about how cool RIOT or S.W.A.T. armor would be. You know character would be like a mini-tank with this! ;D Add chainsaw to this = Best Day Ever. PZ lacks three things:Most important - amors,Important - vehiclesLess important - NPC'sActually npcs are most important but yeah it would be nice to run around in a sheriff outfit acting like rick grimes. CORAALLL first on a personal note, i would rather have cars before NPC's so i can drive NPC's when they join in. and then with the clothing i plan on another post to talk about police and military clothing separately but it does tie in with this. I think cars are being worked on in the background, Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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