Beginner Mode is TOO easy.

[Etsamaru]

It's TOO easy. Now hear me out before you say "That is why it's called beginner mode."

 

I was bored last night and decided to test out Beginner Mode for fun, using a controller and stuff.

What I had found was that I could with 0 traits. Push zombies like super far back, and easily stomp them to death. 

When I could find them.

 

So I learned that my character must have been B.A in real life because, I was just pushing and stomping groups of zombies.

At one point, I slow danced with a zombie. It was beautiful, and I didn't even get bitten.

 

At another juncture I took the pleasure of push a zombie down the street. Ignoring the other zombies. The zombie I pushed was hence named. "Steve"

 

I got to Giga Mart and I found a shotgun and 160 Bullets or so for it. In the same counter.

 

I walked outside and shot the shotgun. About 5 zombies showed up.

 

I was then able to use said shotgun like a pistol and kill zombies halfway across the screen in one shot with level 0 aiming.

 

I finally died by going to the mall and going upstairs where there was a decent number of zombies, I was followed and killed because I went down the stairs and got pinched. HOWEVER I did this semi-on purpose because I was bored. 

 

I had 200 shells at this point with a never miss shotgun, if I wanted I could have just killed all the ones behind me, but instead I tried to run through them in a not caring recklessness.

 

Meaning I KNEW there was a horde at the bottom and one behind me, but with the shotgun I COULD have mowed them down but I chose not to.

 

ANYWHO, It was however a LOT of fun, because I could just walk down the street and blast zombies casually and smell the flowers. I was bantering with the zombies and joking with them and naming them.

 

I even mugged a zombie per say. I walked up behind it and put the shotgun to the back of its head and it didn't know I was there and I was saying "GIVE ME ALL YOUR DOLLARS" Then I killed it.

 

So it was a lot of fun! BUT I do not feel that all those things should be true. It won't ease players into the real game at all.

 

It seems that there is.

 

 

 

Weaker Zombies

MUCH better loot.

Less Zombies.

Less trait loss.

Better skills by default.

Starting with a backpack, a bat and a hammer.

 

and more, but i'm not sure.

 

What I would suggest is at least leaving the zombie count normal. Because a gun should still attract a TON of zombies. Even if the zombies are easily killed. I don't even mind starting with stuff.

 

I shot a shotgun down town in West Point and barely anything came after me. Just saying, it should still show what happens if you make a huge blast noise even if it's easier to deal with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

TL;DR

 

Doesn't ease people into game well, should keep zombie count normal even if the zombies are super weak. Everything else is fine I suppose. It just made EVERYTHING too easy, (Which is a fun change just for messing around.) (laughably easy it felt like a zombie playground like dead rising to be honest.) 

 

 

Turn loot down a SMIDGE, and Keep zombie count normal might ease people in better.

 

It feels like the difficulty is going from

Harvest Moon to Dark Souls.

[RyukIsGod]

They should make ammunition become more scarce in beginner and turn down the push mechanic and add a chance for the zombies to grab you should you attempt to push them.

[Jsnazz]

Every game is easy when you learned the basic of surviving then go on the offensive. This apply to Dark Soul too if you're those quick learner type hehe.

 

Here is a video that I enjoyed pulling on my first play through.. it got so easy that I stopped playing after I defeat the boss where many new players struggled.

 

Since you use DS as an example, I'll prove to ya it not that hard but your post inspired me to suggest some idea for the overall difficulty for PZ. A slight swing to your body or head from a zed will cause a concussion, choke out if it hit you on the neck, blur vision if you got hit in the eye and later lead to blindness etc. If DS make regular enemy hit 4x harder than normal, PZ can do that too imo.

 

[deprav]

That's because you see the beginner mode from an experienced player's point of view. The beginner mode is supposed to be here for players who just bought the game so they can learn and get used to the controls and mechanics of the game.

[Evilwuun]

That's because you see the beginner from an experienced player's point of view. The beginner mode is supposed to be here for players who just bought the game so they can learn and get used to the controls and mechanics of the game.

This was the conclusion I came to. My wife decided to give Project Zomboid a try split screen with me, and Beginner mode seemed perfect for her. I, on the other hand, was bored out of my mind.

There is definitely a huge gap in difficulty between Beginner and Survival, but I think that works out great for most players. You start out in Beginner and just sort of tinker around, getting used to the controls and basic "laws" of the world itself....then you drop into the REAL apocalypse, and it's like taking the training wheels off....you're bound to fall a few times, and there's no way to learn without doing it.

[RyukIsGod]

I don't think there should be a beginners mode just have the "demo" and teach people from that.

You'll die eventually in it BUT you will in the proper game too.

[Rathlord]

I don't think there should be a beginners mode just have the "demo" and teach people from that.

You'll die eventually in it BUT you will in the proper game too.

 

The Beginner mode has served a very good (and successful) purpose. You may not see it, but those of us who actually deal with newbies on a daily basis and read through almost every review we get do. It's not going anywhere, and beginner mode isn't for experienced players. There's a simple solution to every problem in this thread, which is don't play Beginner mode unless it's your first week of playing. Unfortunately feedback from people who have played for considerable amounts of time is pretty useless for Beginner mode.

[Evilwuun]

I don't think there should be a beginners mode just have the "demo" and teach people from that.

You'll die eventually in it BUT you will in the proper game too.

The Beginner mode has served a very good (and successful) purpose. You may not see it, but those of us who actually deal with newbies on a daily basis and read through almost every review we get do. It's not going anywhere, and beginner mode isn't for experienced players. There's a simple solution to every problem in this thread, which is don't play Beginner mode unless it's your first week of playing. Unfortunately feedback from people who have played for considerable amounts of time is pretty useless for Beginner mode.

Hey, if feedback on beginner mode is needed, let me get my wife playing again she made me stand next to her in game every time she went to kill a zombie, just in case she hit the wrong button

For her credit, she's WAY better at State of Decay than I am.

[TheVastator]

see, my eyes skipped automatically the beginner mode, so now I can make my wife play the game, and one day, allow her to join me

 

And all thanks to this post!

 

 

 

Now I only wonder how to get one of those funny titles.... *ponders*

[Etsamaru]

I understand your points of view, and of course there is always sandbox for the intermediates. 

My mind has been changed.

[BetaSpectre]

I play the game on a mode easier than easy mode.