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Ear rings, wedding rings and metallurgy.


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Hello fellow survivors.

 

I was wondering, does anyone here know of a use for all these ear rings and wedding rings. It's IndieStone's modus operandi to introduce something as eye candy and then later, give it a use.

 

I think they're there for aesthetics at the moment but I tend to see stuff slip by me. For example I had no idea you could build log walls until I saw them on reddit. 

 

Do they have a use and if not, I think I have a suggestion. Metallurgy.

 

Now I know nothing about metallurgy but if I were in a situation where I'd achieved relative security in a safe house and that safe house was out in the wilderness I think I'd give it a go. I won't argue if it's not included as it's quite a specialist skill.

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Actually smelting things down into liquid and casting it is a very, very hard thing to do without a ton of specialist equipment or knowledge like you mentioned.

 

However, I'd totally be fine with using it for stuff by bending/forming it without heat. Stuff like, I dunno, smash a wedding ring down into a ball and use it as slingshot ammo or something.

 

As for your actual question, no, no uses right now and none that I know of for the future. Good idea, though.

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It does seem to be somewhat of a niche skill and one I'd think is becoming less common in the real world and so I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't included in the game.

Besides, with foraging you can see evidently, mankind dropped back down to the stone age. I guess this is just me figuring out a way to get mankind back to the bronze and iron age. I'm not at all surprised it's difficult without specialist equipment and knowledge.

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In some ways, this boil down to detailed realism versus reasonable amount of game coding.

 

A typical suburban house contains a ton of metal in it.  There are pipes, air ducts, and electrical conduiting behind the walls.  All of that could be repurposed.  There's electrical wiring you could lash constructions together with.  Depending on the age of the house, you can rip out studs, floors, and other parts to build with.  Appliances and electronics have parts in them that can be used as tools or which have other uses.

 

All of which is without getting particularly creative.  (Though in some cases the usefulness of the result may be less than the value of the effort you had to put in for taking apart the house.)

 

Yet none of that involves melting anything down and forging it into something new.  Rathlord is correct in that this is a difficult skill and one which is not particularly common.  You could melt lead figurines down into crude ball shot over a good fire, but copper pipes or the steel in your refrigerator frame just aren't going to cooperate that easily.

 

 

I think blacksmithing would certainly be a valuable skill in the apocalyptic world, but it would need more than a grill from Wal-Mart and a vague idea one got from watching a few Hollywood movies.

 

 

On the other hand, this is a video game.  We do things in video games all the time that just would not work in the real world.  Want to repurpose a wedding ring into a nail?  The game should go right ahead.  I've seen weirder things, such as taking a bunch of leather strips, using no tools or thread, and just somehow rubbing them together to make a bigger piece of leather.  :)

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I just think that those items (weeding rings, ear rings, wallets) is going to be either 100% pointless or maybe something to do with the moral of the NPCs?

 

*Hands over pile of jewelry taken off walking, smelly corpses*

 

Wanna trade?

 

 

Never mind.  This works in the movies.  It would probably work in real life too.  There's always at least one person who still has the "oooooh shiney" ideal stuck in their head instead of only trading for useful stuff.  :)

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i pick up every ring,locket,headplug,wallet and useless stuff from dead zombies.i dont even know why. i just do... (tophat)

stuff like cards ,bricks, yoyos which u can see clearly when dropped in the world = i pick them up too and drop them in front of looted houses.

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I just think that those items (weeding rings, ear rings, wallets) is going to be either 100% pointless or maybe something to do with the moral of the NPCs?

 

*Hands over pile of jewelry taken off walking, smelly corpses*

 

Wanna trade?

 

 

Never mind.  This works in the movies.  It would probably work in real life too.  There's always at least one person who still has the "oooooh shiney" ideal stuck in their head instead of only trading for useful stuff.  :)

 

 

Hmm, trade would probably be in more useful stuff. Food, lightters, etc.

IMO.

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Actually smelting things down into liquid and casting it is a very, very hard thing to do without a ton of specialist equipment or knowledge like you mentioned.

I knew a guy who did it out of his apartment. It really doesn't take much with the softer metals. Cement, sand, a hair drier, some charcoal or butane torch...

Now, having someone do iron or steel forging is a lot harder, but most other metals aren't too hard to work with at a hobbyist level.

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It takes a bit more than that- regular cement, for example, will crack when exposed to that kind of temp. You need specially treated cement, heat resistant caulk, etc. there are, of course, hobbyists that do it and it's far from impossible- but I bet if you asked your friend, he doesn't do anything more than aluminum and tin. Those aren't going to be able to make anything particularly useful anyways- and the risk (getting the materials, fuel, etc) vs. reward (what you could realistically get out of it) just doesn't make it practical in this scenario IMO.

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I proposed to my friend ingame, so the rings are pretty useful for me.

P.S.

Not an actual proposal

 

Oh, hey, congratulations!

 

*zombies burst in and eat new fiance*

 

Err, sorry.  You really should have been expecting that though.  It always happens that way in the zombie movies.  :evil:

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I proposed to my friend ingame, so the rings are pretty useful for me.

P.S.

Not an actual proposal

 

Oh, hey, congratulations!

 

*zombies burst in and eat new fiance*

 

Err, sorry.  You really should have been expecting that though.  It always happens that way in the zombie movies.  :evil:

 

 

Actually they ate me afterwards, build 30 is tough.

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It is curious to me how items are randomly added to the game that have no use. 

 

Are they implemented for future systems? - if so, why introduce them now and not when the system is implemented, like the medical items were.

 

I cant really come up with a reasonable use for jewlery,  as Rathlord says, it would be too complex to melt them down to re-purpose the metals, even then, what would you craft?  Gold fishing hooks?  Silver plated Bats?

 

Maybe their intention was just to add random useless items to give a real world impression of useless random items. xD

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Yes, most likely their intention was to add random loot normal people would have on them, for the sake of realism.

 

It worked for me. I've always been an emotional sort and when I first saw a wedding ring it occurred to me that this poor soul (who's head I've just smashed in) used to be an actual person.

 

I felt a little sad for a moment. So in that regard, mission accomplished.

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As I recall that was indeed part of the goal in that bout of additions.

The other side of it: in order to balance the game difficulty, loot had been reduced; people became upset that it was unrealistic to loot a house and not find many items, so filled was added to make houses still feel full without having too much useful stuff in the game.

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Ive melted zinc over a basic campfire (melting point if 700 degrees F)

Gold and silver have a melting point of 1700 degrees F, so you would probably need a bellows and smelter to insulate the heat.

An acetylene torch burns at almost 6000 degrees F, which would easily be enough to melt down jewelry.

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I do hope however that some items could find a use. 

 

For the longest time I carried a 'yo-yo' in my back pack.. thinking I was being clever!  in case I got stuck in a house waiting for rain to subside, I could use the yo yo to releive bordom in stead of 'consuming' a newspaper.

 

To say that I was disapointed when I finally discovered that it did nothing was a bit of an understatement lol,  I felt like I had been trolled hard

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