MrZombifiedGamer Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Okay, so I heard this was a common thing back in the day. (No idea if there's any truth to it.) But this seems far too convenient. So here's what I'm thinking. Not everyone would know about this because I certainly didn't. But perhaps a skilled first aid worker could think of it. So my suggestion is once your first aid gets high enough you have the ability to learn how to use maggots to treat wounds in order to prevent infection. Eh? Ehhh? Ehhhhh? Or maybe stop infection entirely. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migulao Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Do you mean infection for example, leaving wounds untreated, or actual zombiefication cure?Because one of those thinks is never, going. TO HAPPEN. robban279 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I know that this is a rumor and it does more harm than help. But people do use leaches to stop blood loss after surgery or major wounds. That could possibly work. But the maggots is a rumor... MrZombifiedGamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 On the downside, maggots can also eat too far into a wound . . .Doesn't sound fun. robban279 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfy Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I know that this is a rumor and it does more harm than help. But people do use leaches to stop blood loss after surgery or major wounds. That could possibly work. But the maggots is a rumor...no, maggot therapy is not a rumor. but it does have very specific wounds in which it is actually even considered. "In maggot debridement therapy, germ-free ("disinfected") larvae of therapeutic fly species ("medical grade maggots") are used to treat and manage wounds in a procedure known as "maggot therapy." The maggots are applied to the wound for 2 or 3 days within special dressings to keep the maggots from migrating. Since medicinal maggots can not dissolve or feed on healthy tissue, their natural instinct is to crawl elsewhere as soon as the wounds are clean, or the larvae are satiated.The scientific literature identifies three primary actions of medical grade maggots on wounds:They debride (clean) the wound by dissolving dead and infected tissue with their proteolytic, digestive enzymes;They disinfect the wound (kill bacteria) by secreting antimicrobial molecules, by ingesting and killing microbes within their gut, and by dissolving biofilm;They stimulate the growth of healthy tissue." http://www.monarchlabs.com/mdthttp://www.livescience.com/17554-maggots-clean-wounds-faster-surgeons.htmlhttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article/news-science-shows-how-maggots-heal-wounds/ MrZombifiedGamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deprav Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I puked a bit inside my mouth. Kitt Frostpaws, Footmuffin, MrZombifiedGamer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZombifiedGamer Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Do you mean infection for example, leaving wounds untreated, or actual zombiefication cure?Because one of those thinks is never, going. TO HAPPEN.No, I mean wound infection. Not zombie cure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King jjwpenguin Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I know that this is a rumor and it does more harm than help. But people do use leaches to stop blood loss after surgery or major wounds. That could possibly work. But the maggots is a rumor...no, maggot therapy is not a rumor. but it does have very specific wounds in which it is actually even considered. "In maggot debridement therapy, germ-free ("disinfected") larvae of therapeutic fly species ("medical grade maggots") are used to treat and manage wounds in a procedure known as "maggot therapy." The maggots are applied to the wound for 2 or 3 days within special dressings to keep the maggots from migrating. Since medicinal maggots can not dissolve or feed on healthy tissue, their natural instinct is to crawl elsewhere as soon as the wounds are clean, or the larvae are satiated.The scientific literature identifies three primary actions of medical grade maggots on wounds:They debride (clean) the wound by dissolving dead and infected tissue with their proteolytic, digestive enzymes;They disinfect the wound (kill bacteria) by secreting antimicrobial molecules, by ingesting and killing microbes within their gut, and by dissolving biofilm;They stimulate the growth of healthy tissue." http://www.monarchlabs.com/mdthttp://www.livescience.com/17554-maggots-clean-wounds-faster-surgeons.htmlhttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article/news-science-shows-how-maggots-heal-wounds/ ......... well i guess i wont be getting any sleep for the next few days. Anyway doubt they are in west point let alone america. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfy Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I know that this is a rumor and it does more harm than help. But people do use leaches to stop blood loss after surgery or major wounds. That could possibly work. But the maggots is a rumor...no, maggot therapy is not a rumor. but it does have very specific wounds in which it is actually even considered. "In maggot debridement therapy, germ-free ("disinfected") larvae of therapeutic fly species ("medical grade maggots") are used to treat and manage wounds in a procedure known as "maggot therapy." The maggots are applied to the wound for 2 or 3 days within special dressings to keep the maggots from migrating. Since medicinal maggots can not dissolve or feed on healthy tissue, their natural instinct is to crawl elsewhere as soon as the wounds are clean, or the larvae are satiated.The scientific literature identifies three primary actions of medical grade maggots on wounds:They debride (clean) the wound by dissolving dead and infected tissue with their proteolytic, digestive enzymes;They disinfect the wound (kill bacteria) by secreting antimicrobial molecules, by ingesting and killing microbes within their gut, and by dissolving biofilm;They stimulate the growth of healthy tissue." http://www.monarchlabs.com/mdthttp://www.livescience.com/17554-maggots-clean-wounds-faster-surgeons.htmlhttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article/news-science-shows-how-maggots-heal-wounds/ ......... well i guess i wont be getting any sleep for the next few days. Anyway doubt they are in west point let alone america. why no sleep? its just nature, been happening for centuries, maybe even millenia. its not like some of the stuff i see on the show "Monsters inside me". now THAT can make you lose sleep. but thats a topic for a different thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florin Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 This seems a bit obscure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZombifiedGamer Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Obscure? How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florin Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 In that antiseptic isn't exactly rare in the game, treating an infected wound with regular maggots would probably make it worse, and I would fall off my chair laughing if I found an item in the game called "medical grade maggots". EnigmaGrey, syfy, Kitt Frostpaws and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 In that antiseptic isn't exactly rare in the game, treating an infected wound with regular maggots would probably make it worse, and I would fall off my chair laughing if I found an item in the game called "medical grade maggots".Does sort of make it worth while, now that you mention it. MrZombifiedGamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snuggler Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Although maggots have been used for centuries to clean wounds, I think its beyond the capabilities(not the right word) of the average modern human. personally if I had an ugly wound and no hope of professional medical attention, I'd try cleaning it up with alcohol and boiled water first. maybe even cutting out the rot myself if I was feeling brave (desparate). in fact there are so many things I would try first before letting maggots in to it. boiled water, whiskey, wine, vinegar, orange soda, sulfur powder, salt, a hot sharp knife, a hot sharp stick, black current jam, any of these things before maggots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robban279 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 This whole thread makes me seriously feel sick. It should have a warning label Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florin Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 People playing a zombie game getting grossed out by maggot talk. Gosh. LeoIvanov and MrZombifiedGamer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handlebar Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Okay, so I heard this was a common thing back in the day. (No idea if there's any truth to it.) But this seems far too convenient. So here's what I'm thinking. Not everyone would know about this because I certainly didn't. But perhaps a skilled first aid worker could think of it. So my suggestion is once your first aid gets high enough you have the ability to learn how to use maggots to treat wounds in order to prevent infection. Eh? Ehhh? Ehhhhh? Or maybe stop infection entirely. What do you think?So wasn't blood letting, but ask George Washington how that worked out for him. This does not seem like a good idea. Flies are extremley dirty and I think it would cause more harm then good. MrZombifiedGamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Yeah, I'm really curious how they get disinfected maggots, personally. That seems like quite the feet, considering documentaries showing them cultivated involved flies and a dish of meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florin Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Obviously they fit each one with a tiny surgical mask and smock. kerlop and Footmuffin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Obviously they fit each one with a a tiny surgical mask and smock. Of course. Boy, you sure can tell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliohow Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 This is much more common than you would think, I know someone who works as a nurse for the NHS, she specialises in treating bedsores and also maggot therapy. While I admit it does sound icky, when its a choice between maggot therapy or getting a limb amputated, patients usually (note: always in her experience) choose the maggots.Plus they only eat necrotic tissue and apparently you dont even feel the maggots. The maggots that are crawling over you, eating you...However in the context of the game though, I think that most players would just laugh at the prospect of medical maggots. Plus I doubt the character in game would be able to tell the difference between regular and medical maggots. MrZombifiedGamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrZombifiedGamer Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 Okay, so I heard this was a common thing back in the day. (No idea if there's any truth to it.) But this seems far too convenient. So here's what I'm thinking. Not everyone would know about this because I certainly didn't. But perhaps a skilled first aid worker could think of it. So my suggestion is once your first aid gets high enough you have the ability to learn how to use maggots to treat wounds in order to prevent infection. Eh? Ehhh? Ehhhhh? Or maybe stop infection entirely. What do you think?So wasn't blood letting, but ask George Washington how that worked out for him. This does not seem like a good idea. Flies are extremley dirty and I think it would cause more harm then good. You have a good point. Poor Washington. If only they were more modern doctors he could have survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoIvanov Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just add new item "Maggot" into the game, similar to the worm, give them the correct punishment for trying to eat them (Why would you even try?!) and let people experiment on what they can do with them, including the "applying to deep wound for disinfection". Obviously, those will spawn in huge clumps on every dead body that's been there for longer than a few days. Your character should feel "queasy" approaching those corpses (more reason to clean your base!), and an inexperienced character (Maybe add a new trait that makes people "more terrified of gross stuff") will probably feel sick even attempting to take maggots into their inventory. Footmuffin and MrZombifiedGamer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerlop Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Obviously they fit each one with a tiny surgical mask and smock.That's probably the funniest thing I've seen all week. King jjwpenguin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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