be210 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 As the topic says. As of now, once you have a fully walled base, you are invulnerable. Maybe individual zombies should only cause some minor damage, but I think hordes should be able to knock down entire sections. I want that fear. Packbat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfy Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 they can and will break thru if you get enough of them banging on that section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isakron Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yes. They could be better at destroying walls. I just wrote something about that in that other thread (operation fix late game). Does anybody know how they break them? Is it damage caused with every hammering fist, or is it a percentile chance every x seconds based on how many zombies there are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
be210 Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 they can and will break thru if you get enough of them banging on that section I have never seen that happen. They bang on windows, on doors, but I've never seen them attack a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfy Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 they can and will break thru if you get enough of them banging on that section I have never seen that happen. They bang on windows, on doors, but I've never seen them attack a wall. any player made construction is breakable. walls, crates, chairs......if you made it, they can break it.you just have to have enough of them trying to get you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
be210 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 they can and will break thru if you get enough of them banging on that section I have never seen that happen. They bang on windows, on doors, but I've never seen them attack a wall. any player made construction is breakable. walls, crates, chairs......if you made it, they can break it.you just have to have enough of them trying to get you Huh- I've never seen that happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohbal Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Clearly we need more aggresive zombies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silents429 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Actually no. Any player made structure is invulnerable right now. It is obviously planned for the future that player walls and doors etc. Will be able to be destroyed by zombies.Realistically, I don't see even a horde of zombies breaking down a houses walls anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isakron Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Realistically, I don't see even a horde of zombies breaking down a houses walls anyway. Even if that would be the case realistically (which I doubt with wooden walls), I think it's boring that they cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packbat Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Actually no. Any player made structure is invulnerable right now. It is obviously planned for the future that player walls and doors etc. Will be able to be destroyed by zombies.Realistically, I don't see even a horde of zombies breaking down a houses walls anyway. When the idea of zombies breaking walls was mentioned in the OFLGBKYBYGT thread, I did some Google searches trying to answer this question. As I said in the other thread, a mob of zombies could probably be reasonably modeled like one would a panicked mob of human beings ... which suggests that a mob pressing against a wall should apply a force between 40% and 75% of their total weight to it, and probably closer to the top of that range than not. And while I don't know about brick, I believe the numbers I saw for structural load-bearing wooden walls said that, when it came to calculating safety versus wind, allowed less than a thousand pounds per foot in total pressure. My estimate is that a horde would only need to be somewhere between eight and twenty zombies deep to push down a brand new built-to-code pre-apocalypse wall, and very few player-built walls would be nearly that strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Have a feeling this was ruled out by Lemmy for performance reasons: having every single wall IsoThumpable would mean zombies would have to constantly decide whether to attack them, much like windows . . .Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isakron Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Ow! No! And that applies to player-built walls? In that case I really do hope they get better at breaking down doors and barricaded windows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Oh no, player-built walls are special: they're certainly allowed to be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isakron Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Yes! Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packbat Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Actually, thinking about the crowd-crush phenomenon, I don't think zombies would choose to push over a wall - the only way it would happen is by a horde (game-generated or player-made - can you say "firearms"?) trying to move towards a wall but unable to advance (e.g. if there's one door and all of them are trying to reach it simultaneously). That wouldn't require anything more than keeping track of horde flows to see if they hit logjams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silents429 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Realistically, I don't see even a horde of zombies breaking down a houses walls anyway. Even if that would be the case realistically (which I doubt with wooden walls), I think it's boring that they cannot. Well yes but the whole game is based around realism. So it doesn't matter if you think its boring or not. Darkwhip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4nny Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 search for this Video on utube: Project Zomboid - Sandbox Part 10 - Escape from Fort Rowe at 8:20 u can see Horde breaking through Walls WingedSnake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silents429 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 search for this Video on utube: Project Zomboid - Sandbox Part 10 - Escape from Fort Rowe at 8:20 u can see Horde breaking through WallsProvide a link, and zombies don't break walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfy Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 search for this Video on utube: Project Zomboid - Sandbox Part 10 - Escape from Fort Rowe at 8:20 u can see Horde breaking through WallsProvide a link, and zombies don't break walls. zombies used to break walls, it happened to me a few times.BUT, i set up a test on build 29. they broke thru a door, but i could leave them banging away on a level 2 wall for 5 days and they never broke thru. now, this was only 20 or so zombies......maybe a massive horde would provide a different answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaGrey Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 search for this Video on utube: Project Zomboid - Sandbox Part 10 - Escape from Fort Rowe at 8:20 u can see Horde breaking through WallsProvide a link, and zombies don't break walls. They break IsoWooden walls just fine, assuming there's enough of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EreWeGo Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 search for this Video on utube: Project Zomboid - Sandbox Part 10 - Escape from Fort Rowe at 8:20 u can see Horde breaking through WallsProvide a link, and zombies don't break walls. They break IsoWooden walls just fine, assuming there's enough of them. To be fair, I've actually never had it happen to me in any of my play-throughs either, so even if they can, they're not very effective at doing it... I don't have a problem with non-player built walls not being able to be destroyed, as long as the player built ones are a little more susceptible to destruction, especially early level walls/barricades/doors etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Mary Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While it'd be tough for zombies to break down a pre-built house wall even in a large horde (even if you get 100 people to all simultaneously punch a brick wall, it's still not going to break down), I'm pretty sure it's planned in the future for zombies to break down all player-made structures. They can already break through low-level wooden walls and doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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