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Campfire overhaul


Zombiemonkey

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We all know that its pretty easy to make a campfire lit in this game. And i tought it was a little bit too easy and a little bit too unrealistic. So this overhaul would make it a bit harder and a bit more realistic. And thats all what this game is about, right? So lets gets started.

 

Wet wood: You just chopped a tree down and you got plenty of wood. But its imaginable that the wood is probably very wet because it stood outside all the time. starting a fire with wet wood is incredibly hard. So its the best solution to store it somewhere inside for a few days until it becomes a little less wet. The more dry the wood, the easier it will get to make a fire. Now, wood you find in a container is another story...

 

Dry grass: You need something to start a fire with once you get a lighter/matches. In the overhaul you have the abilty to pick some grass on a grass tile and store it in your pockets or inside. After a few days it will become more dry, and eventually it will become a great way to start a fire with. Ofcourse, one plumb of dry grass wont make a fire start for the average joe, so you will need lots of paper and dry grass to start a good fire.

 

Fire stages: When you start a fire, it will change, and have different stages. I will show my ideas:

Fire tent: This is the first stage when you start a great fire, lots of flames and warmth  will come, but you have a great chance to burn your food when cooking.

Black wood: The fire has been goign for a little bit. The paper and dry grass have already burned away and the wood has become black and ashy. The fire is still in great condition but the flames are less high. You have  less chance  to burn your food and this is probably the best opportunity if you dont have time.

Collapsed black wood tent: Your fire tent had collapsed, and your flames are less high. This is also a great moment to cook food but it takes longer.

Ashes: Your campfire is now smoldering  red ash. It still gives some warmth and it gives a bit less smoke. Sleeping with the ashes stage in a cold winter is safe and a good way to keep warm.

 

Fire making skill: The more you make fire, the better you will get. eventually at level 2 you can try to make a fire with a notched wooden plank and such. It wont always work, But its a good way to grind your fire skill without wasting wood. at level 4 You will get much better at making fire without matches/lighters. At level 5 you have no reason anymore to use matches or lighters for a fire, as you will be a firemaking god. This skill will be under the survival category just like trapping and fishing. There will also be fire making books around for you to find.

 

 

So what do you guys think? Id like to hear your opinions about it.

 

 

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Would be nice if we could collect rocks or bricks to make our campfire slightly safer also?

Perhaps a metal grate to place over the flames or just a baking pan/pie sheet could be used.

 

For the fire making skill it would be nice if you could give experience based on tools used to make the fire?

IE: 

Books:

Camping guide book could give an experience bonus based on the tools used to make the fire?

Boyscout Book same as the camping guide and wilderness survival guide gives access to additional ways to make a fire safely.

Wilderness Survival guide book upon reading could give you access to additional ways to make a fire both safely and not?

 

Lighters and matches = 1 base experience.

Paper/magazines/notebooks/books = 1 base experience.

Dry Grass/Leaves = 2 base experience.

 

The "hand drill" is suggested to be the oldest method of fire by friction, characterized by the use of a thin, straightened wooden shaft or reed to be spun with the hands, grinding within a notch against the soft wooden base of a fire board (a wooden board with a carved notch in which to catch heated wood fibers created by friction). This repetitive spinning and downward pressure causes black dust to form in the notch of the fireboard, eventually creating a hot, glowing coal. The coal is then carefully placed onto suitable tinder and fanned gently until flame is produced.

 

The "bow drill" uses the same principle as the hand drill (friction by rotation of wood on wood) but the spindle is shorter, wider (about the size of a human thumb) and driven by a bow, which allows longer strokes. With a well-built bow drill and enough practice, fire can be easily created even in wet conditions.

 

Depending on the tool you get more or less experience if you succeed? (This could replace the need for multiple books at later levels.)

Since both lighters and matches are almost guaranteed to give a fire after adding a book/paper/magazine it should always give the least experience.

 

The basic campfire look is ok but perhaps different campfire styles/better campfires.
 I mean there should be a way to build a better and safer more permanent fireplace.

 

Some stores sell premade campfire kits (made of metal/brick) or you can use concrete/bricks/stones and build your own?

All just to stop fire from spreading of course and some might not be able to be taken down.

 

If you ever add in a camping supply store (or add it to the firearms type store) you could add in things like. (taken from wikipedia)

  • fire striker – a piece of high carbon steel used for striking a spark, usually kept in a tinderbox together with flint and tinder.
  • firelighter – small solid fuel tablets sold as a consumer product and designed to replace kindling in starting a fire.
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Would be nice if we could collect rocks or bricks to make our campfire slightly safer also?

Perhaps a metal grate to place over the flames or just a baking pan/pie sheet could be used.

 

For the fire making skill it would be nice if you could give experience based on tools used to make the fire?

IE: 

Books:

Camping guide book could give an experience bonus based on the tools used to make the fire?

Boyscout Book same as the camping guide and wilderness survival guide gives access to additional ways to make a fire safely.

Wilderness Survival guide book upon reading could give you access to additional ways to make a fire both safely and not?

 

Lighters and matches = 1 base experience.

Paper/magazines/notebooks/books = 1 base experience.

Dry Grass/Leaves = 2 base experience.

 

The "hand drill" is suggested to be the oldest method of fire by friction, characterized by the use of a thin, straightened wooden shaft or reed to be spun with the hands, grinding within a notch against the soft wooden base of a fire board (a wooden board with a carved notch in which to catch heated wood fibers created by friction). This repetitive spinning and downward pressure causes black dust to form in the notch of the fireboard, eventually creating a hot, glowing coal. The coal is then carefully placed onto suitable tinder and fanned gently until flame is produced.

 

The "bow drill" uses the same principle as the hand drill (friction by rotation of wood on wood) but the spindle is shorter, wider (about the size of a human thumb) and driven by a bow, which allows longer strokes. With a well-built bow drill and enough practice, fire can be easily created even in wet conditions.

 

Depending on the tool you get more or less experience if you succeed? (This could replace the need for multiple books at later levels.)

Since both lighters and matches are almost guaranteed to give a fire after adding a book/paper/magazine it should always give the least experience.

 

The basic campfire look is ok but perhaps different campfire styles/better campfires.

 I mean there should be a way to build a better and safer more permanent fireplace.

 

Some stores sell premade campfire kits (made of metal/brick) or you can use concrete/bricks/stones and build your own?

All just to stop fire from spreading of course and some might not be able to be taken down.

 

If you ever add in a camping supply store (or add it to the firearms type store) you could add in things like. (taken from wikipedia)

  • fire striker – a piece of high carbon steel used for striking a spark, usually kept in a tinderbox together with flint and tinder.
  • firelighter – small solid fuel tablets sold as a consumer product and designed to replace kindling in starting a fire.

 

Yes, these are  great ideas and fits very well with this suggestion.

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This was more for a better system than currently available in game.

There are lots of ways to build fires safely and also different ways to provide extra control over the fires.

 

That is why I posted info about books possibly teaching one how to make or use different tools and supplies and just base experience off the tools/supplies being used to start the fire. I mean a child can figure out how to use a lighter so unless you were a caveman you don't need to gain much experience towards a survivalist/firestarter skill that way.

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