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  1. the recent update which included the reloading menu broke the remove magazine from firearm, no instead of the remove firearm animation your character plays the insert magazine and then halfway through the animation it just stops. it's really silly looking I tested without mods and made a new save
  2. ok so. both the MSR rifles are basically never used by anybody... why? well they both have a 3 round external magazine (which isn't practical or make any sense) and are very loud firearms, by the time you have fully loaded or put a new mag in hordes of infected will be on you, and with only 3 shots available you might as well just kill yourself. the MSR rifles should be changed in the way their magazines work. (personal preference) make them like what the firearms they are based off of (Winchester hunting rifles) and make them have internal magazines (meaning no magazine to pull out) and have the .308 MSR rifle (i forget if it's the 788 or the 700) have 5 rounds while the .223 version has 10 (.223 is smaller than .308) (what would be easier to do and would be personally ok with) have it so that the .308 magazines have 5 rounds and the .223 magazines have 10... honestly that change is probably the easiest thing ever and could be done in a matter of a minute and yeah you could use the RifleClipFix mod or some of the others BUT that becomes in issue when mods that change the entire items.txt file because that breaks every mod that uses/modifies a bit of the items.txt file will become NULL and not work until the mod that DOES change the entire file gets removed
  3. As some of you know, ORMtnMan stopped development of the Real Guns Mod some time ago, but didn't want his work to go to waste. After much hammering away on the keyboard, and testing on poor defenseless zombies I feel its now safe to officially present the results. This brings a number of new features and fixes to ORGM. Current Version: 3.09.2 Stable Tested PZ Versions: 38.30 to 40.43 Current Compatibility: Necroforge & Survivors Mod: Compatible (built-in patch, as of v2.02-stable) Nolan's ORGM Silencer Mod: Compatible (built-in patch, as of v2.03-stable) Nolan's SuperSurvivors Mod: Partially Compatible (built-in patch, as of v3.04-stable) Any other mods/addons for the legacy ORGM version are not considered compatible. Expect errors if you use them. Changelog Webpage and Frequently Asked Questions Discord ORGM Support Introductory ORGM Tutorial Video (By Ghul King) Downloads (Stable): Current Release 3.09.2 Stable: https://downloads.tekagis.ca/ProjectZomboidMods/ORGM.zip Steam Workshop 3.09.2 Stable: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=514618604 * steam version may not be up-to-date with latest release. Credit to Khaos & ORMntMan for maintaining the workshop page Downloads (Beta/Experimental): Latest Beta Release 3.09.2 Stable: https://downloads.tekagis.ca/ProjectZomboidMods/ORGM-Beta.zip * In the event the latest version is stable, the beta link above will point to the stable version. Github Development Version: https://github.com/FWolfe/RealGunsMod
  4. I've just about clocked my 24th hour on the current IWBUMS build, with 100+ prior plus a handful more from the Kate + Baldspot versions. I'm really enjoying the new mechanics and features so far; the following is a bunch of things I hope to see changed/added. Beyond the list of commonly suggested suggestions (Some of which I will be reiterating), I'm somewhat ignorant of currently planned features and content, so I apologise if any of this already is. Likewise I'm going to ignore developmental constraints and engine limitations for the time being and present everything as I'd like to see it. Where stats and numbers are concerned, in most cases I'm pulling them out my arse for examples' sake. Anything marked with *, even I think might be too complex to be worthwhile Sandbox - Weighted "Random" Zombie attributes, and/or zombie type definitions & Loot Rarity options This is probably the most simple suggestion here, and the one I feel most strongly about so I'll start with it - the customisation options regarding zombies are quite limited. In short, I'd wish for the player to be able to weight each attribute to their pleasing. For example, I could choose for 5% of zombies to have the ability to navigate + use doors, while 10% are sprinters, 20% are blind, etc - making them unpredictable, without having an overwhelming number of zombies with or without X and Y properties. As for zombie type definitions, you create several rulesets and again, weight them for incidence. For example, my Type 1 Zombie constitues 80% of the population, and I go with the standard lore for them. For the remaining 20%, my Type 2 Zombies are weak, blind sprinters with a hightened sense of smell, but they are unable to pass on the infection. This could go so far as to be targeted to existing zombie types, eg. the player could choose for firemen zombies to always be strong, police zombies will always have better eyesight, military zombies will always be sprinters etc but I digress. The same could apply somewhat to vehicles. For example I'd like to be able to set parked cars to either have 0 fuel or 10-100%, and in generally fine condition, but are almost certainly locked and alarmed - While survivor vehicles will be beat up, either out of fuel and/or too damaged to start, and never alarmed Also, being able to allow zombies to use (melee) weapons would certainly be interesting. As for loot rarity settings, I'd like to see them further divided; "Weapons" into Melee, Firearm, Ranged, Ammunition ; "Other" into Medical, Crafting, Books, Electronics etc. Food is fine as it is I suppose. Sound This was pointed out in another thread, but there's quite a disconnect between the sounds the player hears, and those heard by the zombies. Doors opening and closing are, as far as I can tell, completely silent as far as the zombies are concerned, but early on I remember being very hesitant to touch them because I hear them. For this case, the player could have a toggle to open/close doors quietly, taking longer to do so in the latter case. More importantly, I find that it's practically impossible to tell how far north/south a sound is coming from, while East/West seems easy enough. The sound of gunshots seems to travel much further than the player hears. Sounds produced inside or from behind buildings & obstacles are muffled for the player, but I can't tell if this is the case for zombies. If it isn't, I'd hope that changes. Firearms - Dirt vs Condition The most common cause of a firearm malfunctioning beyond mishandling is dirt and debris entering the action, rather than outright damage. Simply enough, firearm condition would take a loooong time to degrade unless they're directly damaged (And the more degraded its moving parts, the quicker it will damage its self) - but firing them, crawling through woodland with them on your person, dropping them and splattering zombie guts all over them would all contribute to increased dirt. At low levels, just water can be used to clean it. But for a seriously gunked-up firearm, it'd necessitate disassembly, cleaning with water and tools, and re-oiling. If we want to go really into depth with it, as if we weren't already, you wouldn't just be able to duct-tape the working parts back into functionality. Rather, you'd be able to strip the components from compatible weapons in the same fashion as the vehicle mechanics currently work; My M16's bolt is damaged - I need to find (or manufacture, good luck?) another. My shotgun's stock is cracked - That I can fix with wood-glue or duct-tape. Where applicable, mechanics, metalwork and carpentry skill would factor in. Suppressors Yes, it's been suggested many times (even by myself) and somewhat definitively shot down, but while I'm here I'd like to reiterate why I think they'd be a positive addition, while addressing some of the misconceptions around them as applied to Zomboid. To get that bit out the way first: A suppressor does not make a firearm truly silent - far from it. All the mods that include them, to my memory, had them completely nullify the volume of a shot. This is uninteresting from a gameplay standpoint in addition to being almost entirely unrealistic. So with that said, what is the need for suppressors in the game? Currently, firearms are in a weird place. In reality, they'd probably be one of the most valuable tools attainable, or at least would appear to be as evidenced by how high novice players especially tend to place them on the priority list. Throughout most of the game however, they're practically irrelevant especially as weapons. If you're in a situation bad enough to warrant their use, firing a few shots is almost always going to make it even worse - the only real exceptions being very remote areas. Ultimately, firearms' utility boils down to them being an on-demand loud noise that can be used to kite zombies away from your intended destination. That is until you've stockpiled enough guns, ammo and if MP/NPCs, people, to use them to clear out the entire cell's worth of zombies that will be attracted to the noise. How would I have them work? -* The noise of a shot is divided into two components - The report (The gunshot its self, the radius surrounding the shooter in which the shot is heard) and the bullet (Noise in direction of fire, extends beyond distance of report radius) - To (poorly) illustrate: - The best suppressor reduces the volume of the report by up to 70%, the distance it travels by up to 60% - dependent on calibre. In other words, the already-quieter and weaker guns would get the most volume reduction; the louder and more powerful a firearm the less benefit a suppressor would convey. - *Subsonic ammunition (where the "standard" round is otherwise supersonic) can be used to decrease the volume of the noise generated by the bullet, whether or not it's suppressed - *at the cost of range and/or damage. - Military/commercial-grade suppressors can be found. Extremely rare, most likely found in military storage/NPCs/zombies - Absolutely minuscule chance of spawning in homes or already attached to firearms - Several levels of improvised suppressors can be crafted, contingent on Metalwork and Mechanics skills - possibly necessitating a skill magazine too - *Military/commercial suppressors are caliber-specific. Crafted suppressors are generic until attached to a firearm. - Suppressors have durability; The more they degrade, the less effective they are (But they will always keep a firearm quieter than otherwise). *The higher the calibre, the more quickly they degrade. A commercial-grade suppressor will last roughly 500 shots before its effectivness bottoms out, while a top-tier crafted suppressor will last roughly 300. - Using a suppressor increases the chance of a firearm malfunctioning and/or increases rate of firearm degradation/dirt gain through firing. *The more crude the suppressor, the greater its influence on degradation/malfunction/dirt. Even with the quietest possible firearm, you wouldn't be able to use it with impunity just because it's suppressed - it'd still be heard for a block or two, but toward the edges of that radius it might not be so loud as to overpower everything else a given zombie is hearing. So for more sparsely populated areas as well as the interior of large buildings, using a firearm becomes much more viable beyond kiting - using a suppressed gun in an emergency would stand a much greater chance of getting you out of it without attracting too much more attention. Bows In the same vein as suppressors, bows and crossbows would make for an interesting addition; Again there would be craftable and non-craftable variants. Compared to (even suppressed) firearms they'd be relatively quiet and more sustainable in terms of ammo consumption. However, they'd be much more difficult to use than firearms, with generally shorter range - though their relative quietness would allow you to gain more experience in practice. I feel like they could use their own set of skills, but that might be going overboard. - Short Bows: Short range, low damage, quietest, decent refire rate, low exertion. Crafting requires beginner carpentry. - Long Bows: Longest range, middling damage, middling volume, slower refire rate, highest exertion. Crafting requires intermediate carpentry. - Crossbows: Middling range, highest damage, loudest, slowest refire rate, middling exertion. Crafting requires intermediate mechanics, beginner metalwork and beginner carpentry. Again, the ability to craft them could be contingent on skill magazines. There could be several varieties of each type, particularly amongst "found" ones, each modifying some of those stats. For example a modern composite bow might be a lot quieter, a modern crossbow pistol might be much faster yet do less damage. I don't know much about archery, but I imagine it's even more bottomless pit of possibilities than I'm presenting here. Vehicle modification & repairs I won't go too into depth with this one, but it essentially boils down to weaponising and up-armouring vehicles. Create a plow and strap it to the front to reduce slowdown and damage caused by mowing down zombies (And humans!), bullbars to reduce collision damage, weld bars across windows and windshields to protect them (reduced visibility?), metal plating on bodywork to protect components and occupants from firearms. Would require metalworking and mechanics skills where applicable. I would like to see the ability to repair bodywork- minor dents would only require a hammer, while more serious damage could be patched over with metal sheets and such. Of course, all that added weight will reduce acceleration, max speed and increase fuel consumption. To go even further with it, you could frankensetein cars together, eg shove a V8 into a hatchback and become an accident waiting to happen. Medical & Physiological I feel like wounds are too easy to disinfect, and antibiotics are a get-out-of-jail-free card should you be unable to disinfect them. I think that for the more persistent injuries you should have to disinfect them multiple times - and regardless, that there should still be a chance of infection dependent on First Aid skill and the quality of dressings, especially if you're still fighting zombies or pissing about in the mud. As for the zombie infection, again I'm aware it's a definitive "no" for a cure, but I feel like giving the player a death sentence with no way to come back from it kinda sucks. Eating plenty could help delay it, amputation could prevent it spreading (but that's a pretty tall order considering the development implications). Beyond that, I think the best compromise would be a drug that can delay it perpetually so long as you have a supply, necessitating a sorta gun-to-your-head approach in getting your next dose. It'd have to be very rare, but maybe there could be a chemistry skill allowing synthesis of this drug at the highest level, with some difficult to acquire/sustain ingredients - in addition to allowing synthesis of disinfectants, medicinal drugs and alcohol. I've also found it a lot more difficult to lose weight in PZ than in reality - I've lost 7kg over the past two months, and as soon as I started maintaining a calorie deficit it started dropping - This doesn't seem to be how it works in-game, with some weird long lag period between not eating and losing the weight. There's no real reason a full day of not eating should not result in weight loss. For relatively minor arm and hand injuries (scratches particularly), I find attack speed is diminished way too much - Adrenaline and the instinct for self-preservation are going to take precedence over keeping such injuries safe in the face of a handful of zombies. I'd rather they diminished accuracy, with only lacerations or anything more serious affecting attack speed. Also rather than the speed of the entire process being reduced, I think it should just be recovery - so the length of time between swings/stabs stays the same, but there's no delay between starting and connecting the attack. Having wounds re-open as a consequence of fighting while injured would give this more depth too, though it could possibly be too frustrating. Improvised Armour & Tailoring As I understand it the protection system is still in its infancy, but again the depth it could go to is endless. Improvised armour could be modifications to existing clothing items, or stand-alone clothing items in themselves. Why not both, beyond the countless hours to code it all and create art? Facetiousness aside, improvised armour would be applicable to each body part that can be damaged. It could be made from all sorts - the heavier the material/larger the piece, the larger the debuffs to movement speed, exertion and/or attack speed dependent on which body part they're worn on, but the greater the protection. So you could be a walking tank but the moment you have to run you're buggered, or you could travel very light and get bitten by the next zombie you encounter, or anything in between. Ballistic protection With armoured vests already in the game and NPCs on the way (or already here with Super(b) survivors, not to mention PvP functionality in MP), ballistic protection has a role to play. Most items that can protect against scratches and bites would likely be useless in the face of a bullet - however some types of improvised (if implemented) or found armour might be better than nothing. Eg. a shot to a flak jacket might cause what would otherwise be a bullet wound to be a bruise. Having both entry and exit wounds possible would also be interesting. Traits Some traits I think should be able to be acquired through gameplay, especially across in-game years, eg. near/far-sightedness, deafness (esp. if you've been in proximity to firearms being shot). As another example, if you smoke too many cigarettes too quickly, you gain the smoker trait; If you abstain, you lose it (after a long time). I feel like athletic, strong, stout and fit shouldn't be traits at all beyond defining your character's starting attributes, and from there would be defined by diet and exercise as with over/underweightedness. Desensitisation could occur after X time in a panic state, with that time lengthened by the Coward trait and shortened by the Brave trait. Professions I feel like some of them are quite lacking - they give you a leg up compared to a traitless, professionless character for sure, but I don't feel like they anywhere near fully reflect the experience someone in that given line of work would really have. For example, I'd imagine a combat veteran to be much more than 20% better than the uninitiated when it comes to all things firearm, and to have some experience with construction, greater aptitude for figuring out improvised explosives. A carpenter by trade would be able to make something much more refined than a bunch of wooden planks assembled into the form of a chair Quality of life/"minor" feature/content wishlist - (Toggle to?) Automatically drop vehicle components when removed - Wheels, brakes, suspension, seats, gas tanks, doors, windows etc. - Allow queueing of constructions eg. walls - Allow all interactions with wounds at all times (assuming I have the requisite supplies) so I don't have to wait for eg. a disinfect operation to complete before I can queue up the bandage. - Almost all clothing items should, imo, provide some scratch and/or bite defence even if it's 1-5% - Leaving car key in ignition drains battery - Skill books renamed to <Skill> for Beginners, <Skill> for Intermediates for better sorting - Maps renamed to Map of <Location> - Annotated maps suffixed with (Annotated). Eg. "Map of West Point (Annotated)" - Welding mask functions as apparrel face item - More options regarding meta events, ie. Frequency, cut-off dates etc. - Generally increase range of firearms - With the Aiming skill given by the Police profession, you can't even attempt a target across a road which I find to be silly. - Different types of belt with greater capacity - Ejecting a magazine from a firearm should not immediately replace it if another is available - Eg. I'll pick up a pistol that I intend to throw away to nick its mag, only to load one I was carrying with me into it - Fix for eating, smoking or otherwise performing animated actions that still allow you to move, the player-character stops every time they change direction. - Aiming/looking/sneaking should be able to be performed while crouched, instead of standing up to do so. - Switching equipped items via the belt possible while sprinting, with a chance of dropping it dependent on All Thumbs/Dextrous trait, and Sprinting skill - Reloading firearms possible while jogging, with a chance of dropping the mag to load dependent on All Thumbs/Dextrous trait and Reloading skill - Bandaging/disinfecting arms, torso and head possible while jogging, with a chance of failure and/or dropping/wasting the bandage/wipe/disinfectant dependent on All Thumbs/Dextrous trait and First Aid skill - A proper equipment/clothing UI, similar to the Medical menu instead of sectioning off part of the existing inventory list - More in-depth categorisation of items, eg. medical supplies, construction/crafting items etc. - The ability to "Loot/Transfer All in Category" when mousing over a given item in container/inventory - Ability to change sandbox settings in SP - Button to leave the current car's key in its glovebox - Keys spawn for ALL vehicles - but they might be on a zombie on the other side of town - or a different town - Vehicle cruise control - Wire Cutters to cut holes in wire fences - Jimmy vehicle door locks with screwdriver, pry locked doors open with crowbar - high chance of destroying the lock, room for a skill/trait to factor in - Reading in darkness takes longer, increases boredom gain - at some point it becomes impossible to read - Reduce exertion of Wood Axe, currently feels more efficient to use regular Axe to chop trees NPC/Meta/Story events - Special Forces/Hazmat teams investigating certain sites, analysing zombie corpses, downloading computer data, extracting VIPs and such - If suppressors ever get in, they'd have them, and they'd shoot survivors on-sight. Good loot on them but practically impossible to kill without an army of your own and/or severe manipulation of the zombie hordes - And that's if you even cross paths with them in the first place. - Helicopter crashlanding - would havefer a decent stock of relatively obscure supplies, at great risk. Could have some more worldbuilding/story items on board. After a given length of time, the wreck could be destroyed and its important contents recovered by aforementioned SF teams - especially if there are survivors of the crash. There could also be civilian variations, a news chopper for example. - Injured/imperiled survivor(s) on ham radio asking for assistance - Survivors intending to rob you, using above as a lure as one option So, that's a big old text dump. There's probably a lot more I could add to this list that currently escapes me. And of what's already here, there will be a lot that each of you will disagree with, but please do mention anything you would really like before you shoot the rest of it down. But beyond that go crazy, it's a lot more effort for the devs to implement any of this rambling than it is for me to think and type it up.
  5. Hello All, Here is the link to the most recent version of my mod, which is currently considered to be stable! http://www.mediafire.com/download/fdp5txod5h1pdtd/ORGM+1.242+-+ModelLoader.zip Installation instructions are included in the folder Going Forward this mod will require Jabs ModelLoader which is included in the download file for your convenience (much thanks to Jab!) Forum Topic here. Also, please be aware that this will require you to be on build 32.30 Patches/Expansion mods I know there are those that say "Don't change guns it will destroy the feeling of PZ". Trust me, I know. Two things. First, I will try my hardest to implement them in game without really upsetting the balance of the game. Second, if you don't like it don't download it. No need to bash the mod unless you want it and it doesn't work right... What the mod currently includes as of version 1.24: - 102 guns (not including sawn-off versions, fire mode changes and muticaliber gun conversions like .357 to .38) - see list below - 16 gun modifications - see list below - 3 gun repair items - Custom inventory icons for all items - Custom models for guns - Custom firing sounds for most guns - Custom gun Reloading/Racking/Manual Action sounds for every caliber - Fire mode conversions (for guns with multiple fire modes) - Guns can use substantially similar caliber rounds (however, be aware some rounds will change how fast or slow a gun degrades) - Slug rounds for shotguns have a chance of spawning (shotguns require a conversion to use however) - Weapon conversion recipes that transfer (or remove) ammo - Ability to unload ammo from guns/mags - Custom reloading scripts for various gun setups including magazines and speed loaders - Full distribution of guns, magazines, mods and repair items in containers and possibly on dead bodies - Guns will spawn with possible damage, a possibility of having loaded ammo and a possibility of having mods attached I am also accepting suggestions for gun additions. Here are the parameters for suggestions: Here is an awesome link that has a full listing of items included in the mod: http://newdawn.aggressivegaming.org/wiki/itemlist.php?kind=ORGM Here is the list of included guns (101 in total not including sawn off or multi-caliber differences) and Gun Mods Revolvers - 15 added by this mod Shotguns - 12 added by this mod (and 6 sawn-off versions) Assault Rifles/LMGs - 15 added by this mod Rifles - 15 added by this mod Sniper Rifles - 6 added by this mod SMGs - 14 added by this mod Gun Mods Here is a list of guns I have had suggestions for (or I thought of) and will add: Here is a list of guns (or functions) I have had suggestions for and will not add at least for now: Current Mod To-Do list Hall of Scholars and Gentlemen; Without whom, this mod would not be possible. (In no particular order) Obvious Ollie - for helping with some scripting, creating the original poster, testing, being a constant companion in this process, reminding me that I have this project to finish, working on some models, AAAAAAAAAND doing some awesome free advertising for the mod. PZ-NOOB - Testing, ideas and promotion of the mod! (Most awesome of all!) Fluffe9911 - for being the Doge master and for being one of the wonderful promoters of the mod! WolfeClaw - Providing his awesome gun models! Jopo80 - Great ideas for weapons and new functions Jab - For creating the ModelLoader which has made the mod compatible with other custom model mods ( and made my life immensely easier, no more having to edit the java every time I put in a new model) Fuji - Helping with an incredible amount of coding, providing gun models , making an awesome new poster and an incredible mod page title picture!, and being the awesome person who figured out how to unlock custom models for guns! Also, for being generally awesome! FLAKT - For providing more sound files for the mod. nolanritchie - creating a full item list, see the link above Khaos - Creating the wiki for ORGM, bug testing and possibly some models! Eddy-baby - For bugtesting and helping with the streamlining of the mod ExitiumRock - for breaking me through some coding walls and doing extensive (and helpful) testing. Archadeas - EXTENSIVE testing, an insurmountable number of ideas and providing fixes for my stupid mistakes! Reblar - Tracking down some coding errors and advocating for inclusion of my mod in his server. the_fallguy - Constructive criticism that is leading to some fixes, and a hoard of good gun suggestions turbotutone - Helping me through my contex menu issues. Pravus - For making the RKF mod for which I drew inspiration, and learned how to do distributions from scouring his code. Supporters on this thread - For sending good vibes and egging me on. Also good gun suggestions. Some examples: carmakazi 956Texas Tech-Com Lamrett KingKickass1552 Usage of my material If you are so inspired by my mod, or things in my mod and you use some of my coding, or items, or whatever, please at least let me know and give some attribution... some of the coding I have done took a lot of trial and error. I am not going to say you can't use my material because: 1) I do not have the means to really enforce or prove it 2) If you can make a better mod than I, I would rather improve the overall community than force my mod to be the only one. This hasn't happened yet, I am just going to get ahead of the ball here.
  6. Greetings fellow PZ Community I know firearms are supposed to be loud AF, and Zeds should be attracted to sound. But I would like to be able to use firearms without aggroing half of the town ! Until now I have always used firearms to relocate zombies from one place to another, but never in the purpose of killing zombies. That's something that lacks to the game IMHO, especially with such an awesome mod as ORGM. I have read topics regarding gun suppressors, and players as much as devs were vehemently against implementing suppressors. That's all right by me. But some people enjoy games differently than others ; while I love traveling through the land of Skyrim with tons of lore-friendly mods, adding realistic features, realistic combat system etc... some other people enjoy it by replacing dragons with cute pink flying pegasus ponies, replacing mighty Thu'um shouts with deadly farts, and many more. To each their own, heh ? So my request is the following : could someone make a small mod to nerf zombies' hearing when it comes to gunshots ? Or maybe with the game's words : greatly reduce weapons' noise ? Thank you very much in advance
  7. There is a difference between bladed weapons and blunt weapons when it comes to aim in-game. IMO there should be a difference between two handed firearms and one handed firearms (I am using those two terms to encompass shotguns, i.e. not rifles vs pistols). Not only are two handed weapons much easier to aim IRL, but this would stop KOSers who level up "Aiming" quickly with a shotgun and then switch to a pistol. Ability to shoot a rifle accurately ~= ability to shoot a pistol accurately Just a thought.
  8. Disclaimer: I've only played a couple hours since 2012 so I'm not entirely sure if some of the mechanics and additions I describe would fit in with the game, or be possible in the engine, but here goes. Suppressors I think firearm suppressors would be a great addition to the game because right now, firearms are very rarely a viable option, and can turn an emergency situation into an even worse one by attracting more zombies. Crafting: This would necessitate the existence of a mechanics/physics skill, or maybe a firearms knowledge skill? Anyway, the player would need several materials, tools and the correct level of said skill/knowledge. This would make it difficult to acquire quickly. There could be several levels of crafted suppressors, each being more effective than the last, but likewise requiring more materials, time and knowledge. Looting: Pre-apocalypse manufactured suppressors would be extremely rare (There'd be a good chance of none spawning) but to make up for this they would be more effective than a DIY one. However, they would only work for a certain class of firearm and no others, whereas crafted ones can be made for any firearm. Gameplay: When attached to a firearm, a suppressor would nullify the report. However, the volume of the shot in the direction of fire would remain similar to that of an unsuppressed gunshot. This means that if there are zombies between you and your target, they will also hear the shot, however the radius the noise travels from the shooter would be reduced. At longer distances though, it would be practically silent. Ammunition crafting: Now this one is a bit complicated and probably won't be added, but with advanced firearms knowledge the player would basically be able to craft different loads, IE high-velocity, or sub-sonic ammuntion. Sub-sonic ammunition would reduce the volume in the direction of fire at a cost of decreased penetration and damage, and would be practically useless without a suppressor. High-velocity ammunition would be the opposite, it would make the firearm have a louder report in exchange for increased damage and penetration. It would also degrade the firearm and the suppressor faster than regular or subsonic ammunition. The player could also manufacture hollowpoint rounds which have increased damage against a single target but virtually no penetration. This doesn't yet seem necessary since zombies will die to one shot anyway, but if there are any changes to that it would be a welcome addition. Weapon Modification: With advanced knowledge in firearms, survivors would be able to make minor modifications to their weapons provided they have the materials. These would include magazine size (In the two higher reloading difficulties, these modifications would be made to the magazines themselves where applicable), stability/accuracy (Stocks and grips [Though they seem 100% accurate at the moment]) and view distance (Improvised/looted optics). With a scope attached, when in aiming mode your field of view would be very narrow, but very long and increase the distance you can scroll off-screen. If you've played Jagged Alliance 2, you have some idea of how I imagine it in my head. Firemodes would also be another possible modification, in other words making a semi-auto weapon full-auto. The rate of fire of shotguns could also be increased by converting it from pump-action to semi auto (I'm not sure how possible this would be IRL but I'm sure it would be, given enough patience and knoweldge) The main suggestion here is suppressors. The other two are ballpark, but I included them anyway.
  9. Rad5002


    So I was thinking for some time how the weapons could be made slightly more effective with more of a downside. Such as a few more weapons to the game, or allowing certain levels of accuracy to change the effect on zombies. Such as crit. hits on the head, making zombies going into crawlers, that sort of stuff. So what I would out up for discussion would be slight more additions to the firearms. Only a few, and nothing overpowered. I'd suggest the addition of an Sub-machine gun (Semi-automatic only) It'd be an improvement over the pistol in most ways, and use the exact same 9mm ammo. For instance, range could be increased, the magazine could be increased to 30 although the accuracy would be exactly the same. However, there would be a few downsides to this. It would be louder than the pistol, causing more zombies to hear it. Level 2/3 accuracy (Or reload) would be needed. I assume a sub-machine gun would be harder to aim than a pistol and so without the correct accuracy/reload level then the player would just not be able to use it 'stating something along the lines of I don't trust myself with this' or something. Also, it could not be equipped with a silencer. Which brings me to my next point. Silencers. Silencers could be extremely rare, accuracy level one and to of read a book on equipping silencers. This would mean that people who use handguns (As it'd be for handguns only) could use it to be more silent. It'd be as loud as a melee weapon then, or a little louder. The downside could be that accuracy is reduced, and the handgun's 'life' is reduced from 1/60 to 1/20 or 1/15. Lastly, what about skill books for guns, only causing a slight xp boost. Sorry about the rant about guns, I really enjoy using the guns in PZ, and I find having the sandbox settings of Zombies - Insane, high health and extremely strong with loot abundant to be quite fun!
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