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  1. It would be great for 6 month later to have to convert a car for use whit wood-gas if fuel is scarce. Don't know what I mean here is google translation link to an explanation. I would love too have the option in-game whit pros and cons.
  2. In real life, gasoline has a shelf life of only 3-6 months, and diesel 6-12 months (Source). In long-term games, gasoline spoiling and becoming unusable should be a concern. To counter this, a survivor should outfit their vehicle with LPG (A.K.A. autogas), which has no shelf life. The conversion should require a propane tank, the appropriate tools, and a high enough mechanics and metalwork skill. An amateur mechanic could install it in the trunk, at the cost of trunk capacity, while a master mechanic might manage to take out the gas tank and squeeze the LPG tank in its stead. As gas ages, it should degrade your engine faster, and lose mileage. Your engine could perhaps make weird sounds, your exhaust become darker, and your character should remark on it directly. Propane, in addition to being lootable like it is now, should be refillable at pumps at gas stations like gas is, with the caveat that only a few gas stations stock LPG, due to its low popularity in the US. You could have it be available at two or three stations in urban areas, which would give players incentive to occasionally leave their self-sufficient base in the woods and make a dangerous fuel run in a zombie-infested area. In addition, you could add the option to run cars and generators on biofuels like ethanol, which you can brew yourself.
  3. Hi, This one might be a bit hard to reproduce, since I don't know how to... but I'll drop it off anyway. Sometimes a filled gas can shows the wrong weight. It does not influence gameplay, the actual weight is still 5.00 and the remaining gas seems to be normal: but the shown value is wrong. See the screenshot below: This only happens for specific cans. It may have something to do with filling them up when their initial gas remaining is not zero, but I'm not sure there. Most cans show normal values after filling them up: Not much of a game breaker or something, but a fix eventually would be nice. Thx in advance! Greetz, Tybs
  4. First of all, I feel like once gas stations run out of power then it's impossible to get fuel from them. So, my suggestion is this: Find a garden hose, a siphoning kit or a rubber tube (construction, gardening, sheds etc) with which you can safely siphon fuel from the gas tanks underneath. It's actually rather easy doing it, even if it's below your feet (don't ask why I did this). You can siphon fuel using your mouth (not recommended since you'll feel sick and maybe throw up (btw this might be used as a negative trait if siphoning fuel with your mouth)) or you can use a hand-held pump either from the kit you bought or a makeshift one which is rather easy to make (you can use a ball, duck-tape, scissors and so on. This would help a great deal with scavenging for fuel and making the gas stations one of the most important places to loot in PZ besides police stations, gun stores and supermarkets. Suggesting this since fuel from cars will run out and after 3-6 months the whole place will be deserted of fuel. So this would be an amazing alternative and if in MP it will give players something to fight for or fortify. Hopefully the community and the Dev's will like the idea and add more flavor to the game. Here's a WikiHow link with some stuff about this idea: https://www.wikihow.com/Siphon-Gas
  5. Is it possible to connect a generator to a gas station to pump gas after power goes out? Would be helpful with cars.
  6. With generators being in game for a while now and cars coming later it surprises me that you cannot put gasoline in spray cans, water bottles and buckets. This seems like something that is pretty common sense. Please let us put gas in anything that can also hold water. And water in gas cans too if that's not in.
  7. Anyone else think the actual generator gimic is REDICULOUS and useless? Collecting gas from gas station pump seem good. But why we cannot power those pump after electricity shutdown? And why there's no pump gas value to prevent infinite collecting ect? Now the only way to play and use a generator is to rush scarvenging gas can at the begening and trying to find and collect generator just to fill them and refill our gas can! This is ridiculous!!! Generator are suposed to give us some options and provide new gameplay. now they being useless endgame because there is no way to collect more gas from unpowered gas station. I feel like dev are developing potentialy cool features but ending up ruined them and providing poor gameplay... what the point of working on generator if they are barely usefull in game. Please work on concrete stuff and give us more option and gameplay instead of releashing "bummer and broken" stuff! What do you guys think of the situation? We should give them presure to fix this assap, because now the thing is just a frustrating waste of time and "half" useless build 32.
  8. Dear developers. When will you add animals? Please add the ability to merge gas from gas station when you have already connected the generator (with fuel).
  9. It's been a while since I played PZ, I think it was build 25 when I started. Now I tried the build 30. Until now, I am bedazzled why the Kitchen Stoves need electricity to run, unless they are electric stoves or microwave ovens. I got the logic of the oven range that uses electricity, but it is mainly used for baking and roasting. We have cooking pot and frying pan, which we always use for cooking on the gas range, not the oven. Gas stoves use gas which is connected to somewhere and literally does not need even a tiny bit of your house's electricity to function or ignite a flame. It's ignition uses some sort of thing also used in lighters. In reality, if gas supply is cut off, surely it can be fitted with other sources like the Propane Tank as fuel that will only be slowly consumed while the stove is turned ON. In other countries, they call them LPG tanks (LPG = Liquefied Petroleum Gas). Once your gas tank is all consumed, you can buy another and you'll just have to give them your empty gas tank. Then they'll refill it to be sold again. A full LPG tank can last for a month if you only cook twice a day. I wish I could use a Propane Tank to the Gas Stove when electricity is cut off. This saves a lot of trees =) I would like to make a mod out of this, unfortunately, I'm just beginning to learn a bit of programming. I tried learning LUA from RoboMat's tutorial but there are other things I have to know to make it work, like the source code i should use for functions and events for this kind of mod.
  10. Maybe one mod can add a sort of generator and a lead system. Which works with gas. And so to have electricity again. Or at least the duration of the Gas. I know. This will make noise... So we can put a little away from our base and connect the cables. Maybe it's a little complicated to make and use. Perhaps Can need more items. But I think it's a good idea and that maybe in the future can work. Well... that's all. And if my english is bad, Sorry. But i don't speak much english. Greetings.
  11. This might be a little preemptive, but since it seems exceptionally likely that we will be able to have generators and/or vehicles in the future, I want to suggest being able to use a wood gasifier as an alternative to petrol. For those that don't know what that is, it is basically extracting gas from wood via heating, which can then be used in combustion engines (or heating etc etc) The process for doing this is very simple and well within the reach of the common man. Wood gas was used before natural gas to heat homes and the like. It was also exceptional common during the petrol shortages of WWII for people to construct them at home to be used to power their cars instead of petrol. They are still made and used all over the world today in many different situations. The basics behind constructing a wood gasifier are: A large container that can be opened and shut (think a 44Gl drum) with a one way valve leading from it. This is placed over a fire, filled with wood (or sawdust, coal or even rubber). The outlet of the one way valve is then ran through some piping to allow it to cool, then a filter (optional) and finally into the carburetor of the engine. What happens is as the wood is heated, it releases hydrogen and carbon monoxide, which then pass thought the pipe, the filter and into the engine to be burnt in the combustion chamber as a petrol replacement. Now as I said, these are an very easy thing to construct by the average man, and in fact, were constructed, en mass, by the average man during times of need. They could be used to fuel a small engine which then runs an generator to provide electricity, or even (as they historically were) hooked directly onto a car to provide a fuel alternative. Some links: Wood Gas = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas Wood Gasifier = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator A small simple gasifier to show how they work = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgu9BdHeUYg Wood gasifier used to power lawn mower engine = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F258s13UxfY Example of what can be done with a gasifier = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYGKn12Weu4 How to build a gasifier = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIiEjL5eGM
  12. I was wondering if they'd make it so that you can place down propane tanks or fuel canisters and shoot them to explode...? they would be pretty small but useful to take out a few in a dense crowd in or to set fire to your doorstep to stop them from coming in. Also propane tanks could maybe break down walls. Of course explosions would attract zombies from a VERY large radius.
  13. I have mentioned this in other topics before, but I figured it deserves its own topic, to discuss possible implications. Petrol & diesel are perishable goods. It is difficult to say how long they last (If you know the answer please share it with us), but according to my research, depending on how you store it, somewhere between 3-6 months. There doesn't seem to be a major difference in the shelf life of petrol or diesel, it's more or less the same. If you store it in a fuel canister it will certanly outlast fuel stored in fuel tanks of cars. This is due to impurities and air in fuel tanks. Why should we care about perishable fuels? For one, the devs want to make a realistic game and it is a fact that Petrol & Diesel don't last forever. Two, it is a survial game and I love how food is perishable in game, it means you have to worry about constantly restocking your supply. I feel the same should apply to our fuel supply. It simply adds to the struggle of staying alive and thus adds to the fun factor this game creates so amazingly well. Implications once cars and fuel are added to the game: Similar to water and electricity, there will be a time where all the fuel found on the map has become obsolete. The question is, how long should fuel last? That will depend on where you get your fuel from: Siphoned from Cars: 6 months. Fuel Canister: 9 months. Gas Station: 9 months. You will notice I have extended the shelf life a bit and that is because during my research many people suggested that their petrol lasted beyond the specified 3-6 months period. Also in terms of gameplay, it would be handy to have the fuel left around the map last a little longer. What happens after 9 months have past? Obviously we will need access to a fuel source once all the exsisting fuels have gone bad. We only really have 2 options: (if you know of more options share them) Bio Diesel: It is relatively easy to produce bio diesel but the emphasis is on relatively. The process isn't to difficult to learn but you will need access to raw materials which aren't gonna be easy to come by in a post appocalyptic world. For one method you will require: Organic Oil, Methanol, Potassium or Sodium Hydroxide. There are many other methods which use other ingredients, so if you know of a simple one that would work in a post appocalyptic world please share it with us. Vegetable Oil: Diesel engines can also run on vegetable oil, which unlike bio diesel will be easier to produce. But it shares the same issue with bio diesel; you have to heat it up to ensure the fluidity is sufficiently high enough to be used in a diesel engine. Which can be an issue since most modified diesel powered cars use a 2 tank system (1 for diesel, 1 for bio diesel), that uses conventional diesel to heat up the bio diesel to operating temperature. Once again if you know of another method of using bio diesel without the help of conventional diesel, let us know. Also to make vegetable oil, we will need a suitable crop to grow and turn into oil. Rapeseed or Sunflower oil seem like a good choice, but if you have a better one share it with us. Choice of engine: Not sure how much thought the devs have put into this, but if fuel was made perishable, petrol engine cars will become useless after the petrol had gone bad. This means we will need to have both petrol and diesel powered cars in game. It would be nice to have a few modified diesel engine cars dotted around the map as a rare find. As far as I know, most if not all power generators are diesel powered, so that shouldn't be an issue once they are introduced. Summary: I have raised a few questions in this post, to which we will need to find answers: Do we want fuel to be perishable? if yes: How long should it last before going off? Do we want Bio Diesel in the game?, If yes what kind? Do we want Vegetable Oil as a fuel source?, If yes what plants do we need? What type of engined cars / generators do we want in the game? Do we need a new skill like mechanic to modify engines? Is this post a waste of time? Lastly, I am no expert on this subject, so feel free to point out any mistakes or things I have missed. Thank you for taking the time to read this post & I am looking forward to your comments.
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