CaptainBinky

That's not just true for deism/theism/atheism, it's true for pretty much any claim anybody can make. There's no such thing as 100% certainty for anything (except possibly pure mathematics) - with any claim, natural or supernatural, you can only deal with probabilities. X is more likely than Y. Z is so overwhelmingly more likely that we can treat it as fact. But any such truth claims have an often unspoken caveat of, "with our current understanding". There is truth to Newtonian physics but as Einstein showed, it's not the full story and while the laws remain accurate on human and cosmic scales, they fall down at the atomic scale. But that doesn't stop the laws being true/accurate for planets, solar systems, and basketballs. Even extremely out-spoken atheists (or anti-theists) and Darwinians such as Richard Dawkins, if you actually read or listen to what they claim, do not speak of certainties. Dawkins, for example, speaks of evolution as true in the same sense as the theory of gravity is true. There is overwhelming evidence to support it that we may treat both as true facts... but that doesn't mean future knowledge couldn't change the way we look at things in the same way that Quantum theory and Relativity changed the way we looked at Newtonian laws. Aaaah Pascal's Wager A philosophy which would work perfectly were there no such thing as multiple religions. In other words, since you're dealing with a whole array of beliefs which are all contradictory, belief in religion A does not protect you if it turns out religion B is the true one.

Totally agree on some sort of "save preset" option on the character screen. And also, as TT says, we'd rather like to have a more in-depth character creation process with multiple-choice Q&A etc

It's a science based show. I hope I don't offend your beliefs, I'm not trying to when I say this, but there is no current evidence supporting Intelligent design without a creator having made the big bang instead of making the world bit by bit. If anything the evidence points towards the recently confirmed big bang, but that doesn't mean (a) God(s) don't exist. I'm an Atheist but if you believe something and aren't physically harming (or mentally) anyone then why should I put your beliefs down. There's a biiiiiiiiiig distinction between deism and theism. The former, even hard-line staunch atheists cannot reasonably claim is untrue since it's unlikely we'd ever be able to prove things one way or the other. It is, after all, a theory discussing what happened before the existence of space and time and a creator who leaves no mark on the cosmos. Theism, however, deals with a combination of history and the nature of physical laws - an entity which interacts with the universe should leave a trace, like moving your hand through water produces ripples. If no ripples are produced, no interaction has taken place. But given that we're dealing with an omnipotent eternal entity by nature unlike everything we've seen in the Universe, who's to say what is, or isn't possible? Nobody can, on either side of the argument. All skeptics do, is say that there is no rational reason to believe something on bad or no evidence. They don't claim that such things are impossible (or at least they shouldn't if they're being honest). On that note, we should bear in mind another distinction - the use of the term "theory" in science, and in common language. I can posit a theory that invisible unicorns exist - but that's a very different usage of the word theory as the "theory" of gravity. In science, theories have predictive power and can be tested.

Er, no. Definitely not (Also, past tense - he's dead)

I've not watched it yet, but I have a hard time believing it could possibly live up to Carl Sagan standards. I also, in general (and no offense meant to our American friends) tend to dislike US documentaries (and for that matter, UK documentaries which aren't either fully or in part made by the BBC) since they tend to work along the lines of, "here is a fact. Now let's restate that fact 50 times in order to fill up this hour time-slot". I am reminded of this utterly dreadful US documentary about Quantum Mechanics (I forget the name) which spent faaaar too long showing footage of multiple basketballs bouncing around while the narrator banged on ad nauseum about "the very big... and the very small" /shudder If you want to watch a really good lecture about the Universe and all that entails, I recommend very highly Lawrence Krauss' "A Universe from Nothing" (and the book of the same name) <3 Lawrence Krauss

275 votes, and there's only 1 vote in it? Closest poll ever.

I AM ENTIRELY FORGETTABLE :'(

Not right now, but yes - one of the reasons for actually being able to move corpses is that so we can implement this. Making you ill before the ability to move bodies would be beyond cruel

By all means abuse the system. It'll work wonders until we start making you ill from having a whole load of rotting corpses in your safe house

Had a really good night, massive thanks to everyone for turning up and being awesome

I feel fine

Gammlernoob, you've sort of missed the point. Development is like this: A = NPCs B = Multiplayer C = Miscellaneous bug fixes D = Other features Time -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> ABADCCABBABDDCDCACAACBBDCDDCBB(oh hey, mutiplayer is ready)ACAAAADCCCDACDAAetc In other words, those 'B's were dotted in through development anyway - always have been. NPCs are no more or less delayed than any feature is delayed by the fact that PZ has more than one feature.

When I want to have a break from brain-crushingly tedious model skin fixes, I get to do brain-crushingly tedious map stuff. Though, to be fair, I did recently have a break from all of that to do some brain-crushingly frustrating OpenGL programming. Thankfully, though, there are always highly motivating games news reports when I finish some of oh wait

Using zombie gore infused materials as bandages for open wounds is probably the single most stupid thing you could possibly do in a real zombie apocalypse. The fact that the game, as it stands, does not recognise this is just a side-effect of it being impossible to implement everything simultaneously

I did a small amount of archery when I was a kid and it was flupping impossible

Given that I've never in my life been to Muldraugh, or anywhere in Kentucky for that matter - to the best of my ability with the reference available, I couldn't find much in the way of civilian farmland immediately surrounding Muldraugh itself. However, To the west of West Point and then connecting to the area where we have the one solitary little farm far to the West of Muldraugh appears to be a substantial area of farming. As the map develops, this area will all get filled in and connected. So the lack of farmland, as it stands, is more to do with our focus on the more urban areas, specifically because there were complaints that the new map which more reflected the region was too sparse. So we added West Point and took a few liberties in terms of building density. But I too look forward to more rural areas if for no other reason than it would link up these islands of completed map areas That all said, all these observations from someone who actually lives there are very valuable to us. We are striving for something reeeeasonably accurate, location-wise. But game decisions trump accuracy, so it's kind of a balancing act.

It *is* English slang too This isn't the first time Mash has been confused by ridiculous British made-up words (awesome shirt)

Amused to Death - Roger Waters

Something's Comin' Over Me - The Grass Roots I flupping love this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKf9dfr6kns edit: And now that's finished, Opportunity for Two - Van Dyke Parks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKf9dfr6kns (I have the best Spotify playlist ever) edit2: And now it's moved on to: Go Your Own Way - Fleetwood Mac http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ul-cZyuYq4 (I told you this was the best playlist ever, and we haven't even got on to E.L.O or The Moody Blues yet )

The benefit to locking up an NPC as opposed to killing them, is that the rest of the survivors in your group would probably be a lot more down with that than their leader going around murdering people

Just noticed the tags this thread has LOL

QUICK! EVERYBODY MOVE TO GERMANY!

Hmmm... for some reason Nasko, your list isn't showing Football Manager 2014 which occupies #3 on my screen. Maybe it glitched out and we got one second of exposure on page #1

QUICK EVERYONE GO AND BUY MACS! Edit: That's interesting... Zomboid appears in the Mac and Linux "New Releases" sections... insufficient games being released for these platforms to warrant the same policy application, perhaps? Don't mind, obviously

Absolutely - it's only been one weekend, so it's really hard (actually impossible) to predict any kind of trend. But thankyou to all of you guys for your continued support and hugs edit: That "featured" banner happens automagically as you climb the Top Sellers list as I understand it, so it's not affected by the "no early access game on new releases" policy change So, yeah, that's tremendous getting featured up there And if I may say so, Afekay's art looks flupping brilliant up there Note to Valve: Don't you think the PZ banner colour scheme nicely compliments the Rome Total War picture? I think you should leave them there forever - just for aesthetic reasons, yeah?