Blake81

Found a bug: Can no longer craft Large/Small Metal Sheets; have all ingredients/tools/required skills and was doing it OK on the Stable patch.

I'm afraid I must inform that the Military Crates are still broken. Still the same "has objects on top" error from Patch 68.
 

I'm afraid I must inform that the Military Crates are still broken. Still the same "has objects on top" error from Patch 68.
 

The Military crates still can't be picked up; they wrongly give a "has item on top" warning.

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

These ones specifically:
 

 
Because believe it or not, people born after the 2Ks, that's what those shelves under the TV were usually for. Holding VHS Tapes and the VHS itself.
 
So it'd be great if they actually functioned as they look like.

These ones specifically:
 

 
Because believe it or not, people born after the 2Ks, that's what those shelves under the TV were usually for. Holding VHS Tapes and the VHS itself.
 
So it'd be great if they actually functioned as they look like.

These ones specifically:
 

 
Because believe it or not, people born after the 2Ks, that's what those shelves under the TV were usually for. Holding VHS Tapes and the VHS itself.
 
So it'd be great if they actually functioned as they look like.

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

I know it ain't really the time for this kind of request, but I gotta ask since you guys are doing it- Can we have some more lore/livery varieties of other models? Like say, an US Army Rancher, a GigaMart Stepvan (make icetruck, plz; I want Fridge on Wheels), some Darts as Delivery Cars for any of the existing restaurants, or an FBI All-Terrain. It's just that I kinda feel like the ValuLine gets all the love, while the other cars don't  

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

The Military crates still can't be picked up; they wrongly give a "has item on top" warning.

The Military crates still can't be picked up; they wrongly give a "has item on top" warning.

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

Its almost like the devs have to finish the entire game before balancing. Shocking.

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

Oh boy, this argument comes up a lot, so lemme break it down piece by piece so my answers makes more sense.
 
 
And this is literally the case for 300% of all survival games. Because after that amount of time, you usually are already set up with enough stuff to survive forever. Stranded Deep, The Forest, NeoScavenger, Flotsam, The Long Dark; no matter the title, after that kind of play thru, if you haven't figured out how to become self-sufficient or looted enough places to have a big stash of canned goods, then you really haven't been playing the game right. It is simply the way all survival games are, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it. Complaining about it is like going to a vegan restaurant and complaining about the lack of beef in the menu.
 
 
I'm going to assume you've never found yourself in a pinch, had to rip some bloodied clothes to make bandages, and had the wound get infected which causes your health to tick down. Because you CAN and WILL die of (non-zombie) infection in this game. No idea of how you have not seen that.
 
As for base building, the whole "Ladders Out" thing, while it works (and many have petitioned for some solution for it), it now comes with the risk of the zombies ripping up your ropes (and boy they do it A LOT) and basically locking you out your base and all your hard-earned loot, so there's that.
 
 
 
Until, after eating nothing but cabbages for a few months, you find your character so underweight you can barely take a hit or carry a backpack loaded with loot. Or the other way around, if you began eating every single thing you found and turned into an obese whale that can barely run or climb a fence. It's all there, but you will not see it with just a couple weeks of in-game playtime. It takes a while to make a difference, but it IS there.
 
 
Sadly, you were focused wrong; this game isn't really about killing Zombies (showcased by how stealth is a thing, and how a fight against a big horde usually ends in death). Fighting zeds is a means to an end; you're killing all the zombies in this building so you can loot it in peace, not to make the area safer for future runs. That's simply not how you play PZ, unless you disable respawns on the Sandbox.
 
 
That's the thing; Sandbox IS the experience. Or at least it'll be until the Story Mode drops in. Part of what makes PZ so good is that it's very much a "Build your own Zombie Apocalypse" Kit where, even without mods, you can basically use it to create whatever experience you're aiming for. Almost anything can be tweaked, disabled or customized, and by not making use of those tools the game comes with, you're doing the equivalent of going to a buffet table, eating nothing but entree bread rolls, and then complaining about the quality of the food after you leave.
 
 
Here's the thing; you don't "win" in PZ, there's no victory state. If you're only playing the game to "beat it and win", then you're really not playing the game right, or it's simply not a game for you.

As someone who's been around the PZ Steam forums before, I honestly think it ain't worth it.
 
The Steam Discussion has become what can be best described as a "Sprawl for the Banned"; every time someone comes here screaming "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! NPCS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! MULTIPLAYER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! GIMME GIMME FULL GAEM NAO!!! I PAID U MONEIS!!" and it gets banned from this forum, they go to Steam Forums with a "Oh! The PZ Devs are evil fascists! I was just asking questions and they banned me for not agreeing with them. Don't go there, and don't play this game. The Devs have turned it into a cult, and only those who praise everything they do and don't point out their bad decisions get to stay." sob story, often including edited screencaps of their posts to make them look innocent.
 
This is pretty much the same for every game that's been long in Early Access, even big name titles like Hades and Factorio got that kind of people whenever the devs banned someone from their own forums; I'm sure that's what nasKo meant by "The feedback wasn't worth it.", and I honestly can see why.
 
So I say, let them be. Just release big updates once there's plenty of stuff that can bedazzle them into not saying anything.

The plumbing in this game is abysmal. what if i dont want to have to build my sink on the top floor for it to work, why cant i plumb two sinks to eachother, ive tried everything a barrel to a barrel, a sink to a sink with a barrel to the first sink, a barrel to a toilet thats then attached to a sink, a barrel to a washing machine with a sink below the machine nothing works, why is there NO way to plumb more than one floor, it looks disgusting to have to have a floating barrel outside on the wall a level above the sink.

Why cant we plumb upwards, why is there no massive water storage in the base game, why is the only option to connect a barrel to a sink directly below. Drives me insane.
Also its probably cause they changed the way buildings are classified if you say try and break down some walls on a pre existing building and place a new expansion you still get chilly, the lighting acts as tho you are standing outside the building.

So not only can you not plumb your own player built base you cant plumb multiple floors anyway. Just delete the thing from the game like you did multiplayer and the old survivors and release it when you got it down, add it to the trend of not doing things properly then backpedaling.

So far everything good on this patch. Only issue I notice is a very slight stutter when driving; I can tell the FPS is dropping to around 29, but again, I am on Win7, so I remember that fancy garbage collector from a few patches ago was Win10 only.
 
As for things that bother me, can we make the clock in the corner bigger? I have a big-huge monitor with high res, and it looks very tiny, to the point I have to move closer to my screen to read the temp. I just found the option for this, and it's apparently broken- The "Large" setting does not enlarge the clock, it only moves it one inch to the left.

EDIT: Looks like closing and relaunching the game fixes the Large Clock. It's fine now.

Since you guys are still doing Noisework additions, can we perchance have different radio/TV voice-mumble sounds? It feels so strange they all sound the same. I know this is purely aesthetic, but it'd make a nice immersion difference.